Philip Berg, Fox News, API, Standing, and the United States Supreme Court
I spoke with Philip Berg this afternoon as he sat in his office, awaiting a crew from Fox News Channel in New York. While interest in his lawsuit among those at Fox has been steadily mounting over the past few days and weeks, Berg does not know exactly in what capacity the end product of the taping will be used.
"At this point," Berg said, "the nation just needs to know that Mr. Obama is not eligible to serve as president of the United States, that he has so far successfully hidden behind procedure, and that we could very well be headed toward a constitutional crisis unless this is addressed."
And he is indeed working toward ensuring that the issue is addressed, Berg said, and has been spending the past few days preparing for his appeal to the United States Supreme Court, a move which could happen by the end of the week. This, of course, has caused him to shift other items to the proverbial back burner, including but not limited to the so-called Michelle Obama tapes purportedly possessed by editorial staff at African Press International.
With regard to API, Berg says that he's not so sure what has come or will come of it. "My name is associated with it," he said, "but now I see that there's a Canadian name associated with it too, and that they are claiming to have provided the tapes to Fox News or someone else. I don't know."
Still, even with the focus shifting to the Supreme Court appeal, the odds of the highest court in the land actually granting certiorari and hearing Berg's case are slim. Even though appealing directly to the Supreme Court without first exhausting other options in the Circuit Court level, while a rare move, can be done with regard to substantially urgent matters, the Supreme Court is presented with approximately 8,000 petitions for certiorari each year but only grant about 75 to 120 of those. Personally, if it were me, I'd exhaust my options with the Third Circuit Court of Appeals before going to the Supreme Court -- this way, I could avoid a possible procedural error. While that may delay the outcome of the case until after the fourth of November, I'd rather delay it than watch it tossed for an improper appeal.
In the unlikely event, though, that four of the nine Supreme Court Justices decide to hear the case, Berg will first have to establish that, contrary to the arguments put forth by Barack Obama and the DNC and the specifics of the decision rendered by the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick, he indeed has standing to sue. As I've pointed out in these pages before, the standing doctrine as it stands today does not bode well for Philip Berg.
To have standing, a plaintiff must satisfy a three-prong test. He or she must prove (1) injury in fact, (2) causation, and (3) redressibility -- that they've sustained more than just general harm, that the harm can be traced to the conduct of the defendant, and that adjudication of the matter can provide a remedy to that harm. Berg's biggest hurdle, so far, has been establishing injury in fact.
Now, while there is a three-prong test for standing, there is no such definitive test for establishing what exactly constitutes an injury in fact. Instead, whether or not a plaintiff has sustained an injury in fact depends upon how that plaintiff's factual allegations are perceived by the judge on what has been described as a sliding scale of speculation, creativity and remoteness. In other words, if the factual support of a plaintiff's claims is deemed too speculative, too remote, or too creative, then the judge may not find injury, and visa versa.
In the past, the United States Supreme Court has held that a plaintiff must have a "personal stake" in the matter being adjudicated. This, of course, is to ensure that the matter belongs before the court in the first place. More recently, however, the Court has paid greater attention to, and awarded standing for, plaintiffs who can show enough of an injury so as to provide something along the lines of a good contest among legal rivals.
In Constitutional Law class last year, we studied a few cases while looking at the standing issue. One was a case in which a group of environmentalists were given standing by the Supreme Court because the need for preservation of "environmental well-being" was enough to prove injury. In another case, an association in Washington state was deemed to have standing even though it was the individual members, and not the association itself, which could be found to have had the requisite "personal stake."
That being said, in the unlikely event that this case is heard by the Supreme Court, Berg will need to argue, certainly among other things, that the injury deemed too generalized by Judge Surrick is indeed enough to show injury in fact and therefore gain standing to sue. Only then can this case be heard on its merits.
In the meantime, this election is only a week away. Talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors. Some will be too far gone to the political left. Others will be open to discussion. Regardless, make sure that people get out to vote next Tuesday, because the best way to stop Barack Obama from gaining the presidency is not through the court system but at the ballot box.
SEE ALSO:
- Who Enforces the Constitution's Natural Born Citizen Clause? (American Thinker)
- Obama Must Stand Up or Sit Down (NewsWithViews)


78 comments:
Hmm, I guess it's not a big enough argument to argue that the "injury in fact" in this case is the fact that your vote, a right protected by the constitution, is being reduced to zero value if this false election is allowed to continue as-is?
So what about the tape of Sarah Obama saying her grandson Barack was born in Kenya and that she was present at his birth. That would make people ask Obama to show them his birth certificate.
This is the same BS with Jennifer Brunner in Ohio. If the American people do not have "standing" to enforce the Constitution of the United States - who does!?!?
I am outraged. Obama is a lawyer and he is essentially throwing in the face of our country a crime.
If this goes through, I can't see how the Republic survives once we establish that Constitutional law is no longer relevant.
I feel like my country is slipping away.
Can a citizen petition the court to be added to a lawsuit or can it be made a class action case?
What do you mean Berg is putting the tapes on the back burner? What the heck????? Those tapes are the only chance we have of getting Obama off the ballot before the election. I think Berg is not thinking clearly and has blinders on. Although I commend his action in going to the Supreme Court, that will not resolve itself before the election. Please relay to Mr. Berg that the tapes MUST BE RELEASED before the election. Millions of us have put our money, and our prayers and trust into Berg. He cannot let us down now.
Jeff,
I fear the case was killed when Hon. R. Barclay Surrick dismissed it.
I'm sure I'm not alone in wondering what the deal is with Phil Berg. Why hasn't he released the tape of Obama's mother? Why is he not doing more to get the Michelle Obama tapes released? Both of those would prove his case to the world.
The omission of the tapes is more disturbing to me than the slim-to-none chances for the case being heard by the Supreme Court.
What is Berg waiting for? Doesn't he see that he could win in the court of public opinion merely by releasing the tapes?
Or, and this is my fear, are the tapes hearsay? Do they not really exist? Is he bluffing?
Something doesn't smell right about this.
Bill
Fortunately, God doesn't recognize probabilities. The fact is, arrogance has a fatal flaw that is always brought down - the question is merely how B. Hussein O. will be brought down. We are merely awaiting the method and time. I stand by my prediction, that he is more likely to be in prison at the end of the year than in Wash D.C.
Finally, keep bugging the LA Times:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/demand-the-la-t.html
Phone: 1-800-528-4637
Is anyone helping Berg on this Supreme Court case? I hope he isn't rehashing what he sent to the lower court because that was rejected. I hope he comes up with a different angle for "standing". I am not an attorney, but it appears the only person with standing is Hillary Clinton! What about getting her on board? I do hope Berg has enlisted many other attorneys who have presented alot in front of the Supreme Court. I will pray he still releases the tapes NOW and that he gets the attention of the nation with the lawsuit.
People are bombarding secretary of states all over the country. I did myself until I looked at the process. There are no requirements for states to “qualify” a candidate chosen by their respective political party. It is up to said party to vet the candidate. The states are not electing “candidates” they are electing “electors” to the electoral college.
The following is from the US Code of elections. excerpted from here http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/provisions.html#law
Vacancy in offices of both president and vice president; officers eligible to act
§ 19. (a) (1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.
So the way I see it is that the Senate President, Dick Cheney, will determine Obama ineligible and because Biden will have enough electoral votes he would fill the vacancy and nominate a VP, probably Hillary.
But I can't find where there is a process to determine eligibility. It just seems to be written but not referenced in procedure. There is a call for Objections after the votes are read in joint session but it seems that only objections to the certificate of votes are allowed objections.
Anyone know a law student....LOL
Listen, I agree that if the tapes are real, they should be pursued relentlessly. However, I DOUBT THAT THE API TAPES ARE REAL.
As for the Sarah Obama tapes, Berg is waiting on confirmation of the translation.
In the meantime, LET'S BUG THE HECK OUT OF THE LOS ANGELES TIMES.
Jeff,
I had an interesting experience this morning. My spouse and I are getting ready to apply for Social Security benefits. Toward that end, we stopped at the county admin building to obtain copies of our birth certificates.
What we each received as a "Certificate of Live Birth". I asked the lady in the County Recorder's office if I could have a copy of the actual birth certificate. (I have one already, but it's a white-on-black negative of the original and is stamped "Unverified Copy."
I was informed that the COLB was the only one I could receive from the county. For an actual copy I would need to go to the state capitol and even then the lady was not sure I could have what I was asking for.
I can't help wondering why it is so difficult to obtain a copy of a vault birth certificate. Is there some reason these are held in such close confines? What could possibly be reported on there that would require a two-hundred-mile trip to obtain?
This is sooo frustrating. Why does this have to be so "grand". We don't need federal court or supreme court to rule on BHO's eligibility. We don't need to prove our case. The situation seems simple to me. I don't care to prejudge the outcome, I just want data and a transparency of process. We the people (and yes, even the MSM) can take it from there. We just need someone (DOJ? FEC? Senate Rules Committee? a State SoS?, a designated elector?)to require that the Obama Campaign or the DNC to provide the information by which they determined he was eligible. Why is this so hard? People can't vote without knowledge. And if a court order is needed, then let's get the court to do just that - a writ of mandamus? - and not try to get a ruling on eligibility itself. That seems too hard and too long.
Jeff:
As it relates to: (1) injury in fact, why can't he use a financial loss (ie money donated) as an injury totaling $700 million. When they wanted to bring down the mob they went to tax evasion in order to convict. There must be some way to tie in the loss of enormous amounts of money by people as an "injury". ?? Your thoughts?
Thanks Jeff for the update! It is about damn time that Fox News gets something going. I have been emailing them for months. I hope we see a report very, very soon.
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http://tinyurl.com/6ecybh
The girl that performed this artwork is an Auburn University grad! War Eagle!
Once again, thanks for the great work Jeff!
Have a great day y'all!
Southern Belle
www.southernbellepolitics.blogspot.com
Does anybody know whatever happened to the investigation of the candidates passport breaches at the state dept earlier this year? Who were the contractors? Who hired them? Were the files tampered with?
Injury? Since when is financial loss by fraud not injury? We are looking at almost a trillion fraudulent dollars by Nov. 4. Al Capone is salivating in his grave.
Update: McCain's camp is now demanding the video from the LA Times. Keep bugging them and refusing to purchase their paper anymore unless it is released!
Phone: 1-800-528-4637
Isn't it amazing how these "it will blow things right out of the water!!" revelations seem to all be coming to a head just days before the election?
Oops - Obama will be close to a billion - not a trillion. Poor guy.
Just ask McCain or Palin to join the Supreme Court suit. They would certainly qualify as having "standing". Their injury would be obvious.
I doubt the USSC will take on the case on certiorari. The judge in PA is correct because there is no case precedent to give standing to this kind of plaintiff and the court would have to wait for the Congress to give standing if they will.
I was too following API for a while but it looks more like a hoax now. I don't believe the Sarah Obama tape would make a difference, if it truely exits. My only hope, is that we turn out to vote, despite the polls. That may be the only way to stop this guy for now.
I grabbed this comment from ObamaCrimes.com. Thanks lex.
Even if you doubt the allegations wrt citizenship etc... the legalities may be interesting to read about.
Quote:
What say you to this ?
by lex on Tue 28 Oct 2008 11:03 AM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
FYI
The following email was received from the Montana Secretary of State's office last Friday, 10-24-2008>
from: Justus Wendland (###@mt.gov)
Wendland, Justus (###)
You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Fri 10/24/08 9:53 PM
To: ###
Dear Lex:
Thanks for your inquiry about Barack Obama's elligibility to be on Montana's ballot as a candidate for President of the United States.
The filing functions of this office are ministerial -- in other words, we accept paperwork filed here in the manner prescribed by Montana law.
Those laws for placing "presidential candidates" on the ballot work differently than you might expect.
Technically, votes for President are cast for a slate of three delegates to the Electoral College, not for a candidate. However, those delegates
are pledged to vote for a particular candidate, and the name of that candidate is listed on the ballot, rather than the names of the delegates.
Every qualified political party in Montana has the right to submit the names of potential delegates to the electoral college, and to have those
delegates pledged to any individual as the candidate they would vote for for President if they were elected to the Electoral College.
So Barrack Obama would not have to provide a birth certificate or any other documentation to be on Montana's ballot as a candidate for President.
In fact, he would not even get a say in the matter. Once delegates of a qualified political party are nominated and pledged to him, he is on the ballot
without regard to his personal acceptance or rejection of those votes.
The requirements of the U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 2 (No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time
of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained
to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States) would be settled at thefederal level.
Sincerely, Etc etc
It sounds like Berg et al. will have standing after Nov. 4th.
How are you all interpretting this?
Why would we bug the heck out of the LA Times when we have a 'bird in the hand' already with the Kenyan grandmother tape?!?!?! Please, Jeff, convince Berg to release the grandmother tape. I thought you had stated the verification was completed last week? Please relay to Berg how important that tape is and that it MUST be released before the election. Please give us an update after you speak to him again. We will be waiting to hear about the grandmother tape from you. We trust you, Jeff, but Berg has to be made aware that this is the priority right now. If it is released only a few days before the election, it will take too long to disseminate among all the media to get the story out to enough people. As big as the story is, it still takes several days for it to permeate the media on all fronts. Please explain this to Berg. The tape means nothing after the election and it will be 'suspect' after the election because people will be asking "why didn't you release it before the election!"
Jeff, Thanks for all of your work on this issue, and to Mr. Berg for sticking with it.
My question is, why can't we go after him on Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Has this been removed by Congress? We know of his past ties, and more are coming out everyday. He even praised Bill Ayers book in his own. Wouldn't that be aid or comfort?
“As for the Sarah Obama tapes, Berg is waiting on confirmation of the translation.”
What the? He could have sent me the tape and I’m sure in 2 days turn around I could have gotten it translated. This does not make any sense.
How about candidates for US Senator and US Representative and state offices for that matter?
The cumulative effect of having ineligible candidates running and taking office could be a problem.
"greg goss said...
People are bombarding secretary of states all over the country. I did myself until I looked at the process. There are no requirements for states to “qualify” a candidate chosen by their respective political party. It is up to said party to vet the candidate. The states are not electing “candidates” they are electing “electors” to the electoral college."
Obama is now stating that the constitution is a major flaw of this country and that he plans on getting rid of it if he gets allected
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqHlc2C895c&feature=bz303
Jeff,
From what I'm reading, no one has the responsibility to verify the basic qualifications for a candidate for the POTUS.
So, what if (don't you jts love what if's) after the Electors cast their ballots and the results are presented to the Congress for (?), an objection is raised against the acceptance of the results until the Congress verifies the qualifications of the individual selected.
This could be better than 2000! What a hoot that would be!
If Obama was elected and then found to have been unqualified, Constitutionally, wouldn't there have to be a new election? How could Biden just move into the presidency if there is a Constitutional crisis??? Attorneys?
Fact 1. Constitution Article II, Section II sets forth the qualifications for presidential candidates: “”No person except a NATURAL BORN Citizen”, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and have been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Fact 2.The US law states for a “NATURAL BORN” US Citizen for the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born between December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986: If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html
Fact 3. Obama’s father Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was NOT a US citizen, he was a Muslim citizen from Kenya and under the British Nationality Act of 1948 Obama II would also be a citizen of Kenya.
Fact 4. Obama’s mother was only 18 years old at his birth, NOT the 16 + 5 = 21 required because his father was not a US citizen. Therefore Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a “NATURAL BORN” US Citizen as required by the US Constitution to become the President of the USA!!!
Fact 5. Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo a Muslim Indonesian citizen that adopted Barack Hussein Obama II and his name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro and spent his formative years in Indonesia and attended two Indonesian schools as an Islam Indonesian citizen!!! By Indonesian law it is stipulated that an adopted child has the same status as a natural child, and that his or her relationship to the birth parents is severed by adoption”. (So Barry is only the son of his mother because she was married to the adopting father Lolo Soetoro, therefore Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II would no longer be a US citizen and is still a legal citizen of Indonesia.)
Fact 6. It is the responsibility of the presidential candidate to prove that they meet the qualifications of the Constitution, not the voters. So let Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II supply copies of all the original documents that would prove he is a “NATURAL BORN Citizen of the United States of America” as defined and required by the US Constitution to become the President & Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and he has no allegiance to another country!!!
In 1968, Eldridge Cleaver, who was running for President as a Peace and Freedom candidate was removed from the ballot by the Secretary of State. I wish I knew more about the timing and where the case could be read. The technicality was his being 34 year years old.
"Obama is now stating that the constitution is a major flaw of this country and that he plans on getting rid of it if he gets allected
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqHlc2C895c&feature=bz303"
No he's not. You're an idiot, not to mention an idiot who believes the word of a raving racist like Hal Turner.
Mr. Schreiber et al: I am appalled at anyone who goes along with the court's assessment that Mr. Berg has no standing because he can't prove "injury in fact." This is preposterous. The only more injury one could factually incur than the dismantling of the foundational document which establishes our government and ensures our liberties, is to be violently robbed of life itself. The constitution stands as the foundation for American society itself, and for anyone to blatantly violate that document by assuming a position established and empowered by it is an offense of the highest order not to one individual alone, but to all individuals who live and operate within that society. There can be no greater injury to Mr. Berg, myself, or any of you reading, posting, or observing this fiasco than to have one of the Chief Offices created by the constitution to be occupied by someone specifically prohibited from doing so in the same text. To say that he, myself or anyone else cannot prove injury is the height of false intellectualism and faulty legal reasoning. If none of us have standing to sue when our Constitution is being violated, what is the point of the Constitution to begin with! We should ALL be filing suit and demanding that the courts, the legislature and the current executive branch uphold the Constitution by demanding that Mr. Obama either prove himself eligible or withdraw himself from the race. But you go ahead and make these "legal" arguments based on a legal education which has so clouded your reasoning that you can no longer see the common sense the Founding Fathers wrote into the one document which should protect and preserve the right of Americans to choose their own government. Ridiculous!!
Due to Berg's previously having sued at least two Supreme Court Justices, wouldn't those Justices have to recuse themselves from Berg's case (on the VERY unlikely event they would even hear it)
Obama is the North American version of Hugo Chavez. Watch him turn the country into another banana republic, just like Chavez turned Venezuela into one. By the time he gets done, Canada will be the only truly stable Western democracy in this hemisphere.
About that LA times tape....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html
"In regards to Khalidi, however, the guilt-by-association game burns John McCain as well.
During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.
A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. (See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14 of this PDF.)
The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January. Foreign Affairs noted in September of that year that IRI had helped fund several extensive studies in Palestine run by Khalidi's group, including over 30 public opinion polls and a study of "sociopolitical attitudes.""
I repeat here
ACTION ALERT
from
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/one-week-to-go.html?showComment=1225215060000#c6175380295755601812
ACTION ALERT
Please READ and SHARE this stuff about actions by Citizen Wells (and support it any way you can think about):
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/addressing-rumors-surrounding-surricks.html?showComment=1225167840000#c2200567308868965224
Also go to
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com
The National Republican Trust PAC
(PAC - Political Action Committee;
There is a notice on the site:
Paid for by The National Republican Trust PAC.
Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.
2100 M St. NW Suite 170-340 Washington, DC 20037-1233)
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/obama_letter.html
"Urgent Letter From Scott Wheeler About Barack Obama"
(Scott Wheeler Executive Director)
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/contactus.html
and let them know about the lawsuit
Berg v. Obama & DNC et al (Obama not eligible to be President according Constitution of the US), Berg's future appeal to Supreme Court of the US, VIDEO "OCTOBER SURPRISE" (3,500,000+ views now), and actions by Citizen Wells.
Ask them to show VIDEO "OCTOBER SURPRISE" on National TV!!!
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Link to VIDEO "October Surprise";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
or just Google:
October Surprise, YouTube
and the first link is yours.
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About "standing" doctrine from the point of view of any citizen (WE THE PEOPLE):
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/addressing-rumors-surrounding-surricks.html?showComment=1225077960000#c1011859822778338003
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P.S. Unfortunately, at this moment I don't know email address of The National Republican Trust PAC (you can contact them through a form on
http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/contactus.html ).
Otherwise it woud be useful to send copies of your message to them to any TV or other media you can think about.
Tons of media email addresses can be found by Google:
media email addresses
E.g.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm
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Would Hillary or one of the other democrats who were running have standing?
To have standing, a plaintiff must satisfy a three-prong test. He or she must prove
(1) injury in fact, a violation of the constitution is an injury to the body of the nation, which includes each citizen...
We the People and the right to petition...
(2) causation, failure to provide the necessary information in good faith and time...
(3) redressibility, Judgement to require the necessary information be provided by the defendent.
There is nothing general about the harm, that can be traced to the conduct of the defendant.
At this juncture only adjudication of the matter can provide a remedy to that harm.
Jeff,
My understanding is that a U.S. Senator must be a citizen for at least nine years. If instead of questioning Obama's Presidential eligibility someone questioned his Senatorial eligibility wouldn't a plantiff have standing being that he is a standing U.S. Senator? You could use all the same arguments for injury Berg is using now just repurposed for the intent of removing him as Senator.
Barack Obama running for President is in many regards similar to "Mickey Mouse" running. You can't sue MM because MM running for President doesn't really "injure" you. Barack, the same way.
However Berg does have standing (IMHO) to sue the DNC because he has an association with that organization. They have "injured" Berg by nominating someone to represent him (and all Dems) that he does not believe to be eligible to recieve the office.
The judge should have dismissed on Obama, however allowed the suit to continue on the DNC. Therefore the injury in fact and causation would be clear.
As for the remody, Mickey Mouse... er. Mr Obama (sorry, big ears and all) would be allowed to run for President, but not on the Democrat ticket. UNLESS the DNC showed convining evidence that Barack Obama was indeed eligible.
Want your head to explode??? Consider this... Barack Obama is past (presumably) all the state deadlines to get on the ballot, so at best he would be a write-in. Therefore the Barack Obama on the ballot is not the Obama you're voting for. The Obama you're voting for is only if you write in "Barack Obama"... Unless you misspell it - then the courts get to count the Barrack's and Osama's.
The MSM is practically gushing over how much Obama's fundraising and subsequent spending on his campaign has outpaced McCain's with no curiosity evident as to the source of all that money.
The facts related to this issue could very well lead to an impeachable offense. Fat chance getting that done in a Democrat controlled Congress.
Jeff.....all of your hard work is so appreciated. Thank you!
I just emailed Mr. Berg and asked that he consider including Senator John Warner in his suit as someone with standing. Senator Warner served in the US Navy, was Secretary of the Navy and has been Virginia's senior senator for many years. HE IS RETIRING and is in competition with no one on the Hill.
I kind of feel he is enough of a patriot that he might very well give this last gift to his country.
The US Constitution expressly intends to protect all American Citizens from the election of a POTUS who does not meet the specific test of eligibility set forth therein. As an American citizen, do I not have a right under the Constitution to such protections afforded?
It seems implicit I have a civil right under the Constitution to know routinely gathered governmentally-known information which directly answers the public test for POTUS eligibility established by the Constitution.
If my civil rights have been violated or unreasonably or arbitrarily curtailed, is this not an injury sufficient to be granted standing?
By formally seeking election to the office of POTUS, does not a POTUS candidate implicitly warrant their eligibility and willingness to submit themselves to such a test for eligibility as set forth under the US Constitution?
Tom's statements were great! I find all that is happening very frustrating! I agree that the tapes from Obama's grandmother should be verified and presented to the public!
Kathy - "Fact 4. Obama’s mother was only 18 years old at his birth, NOT the 16 + 5 = 21 required because his father was not a US citizen. Therefore Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a “NATURAL BORN” US Citizen as required by the US Constitution to become the President of the USA!!!"
You're talking 8 U.S.C. §1401(g)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html
This was amended in 1986 to change the requirement from 10 years to 5. However, the AGE requirement was and is 14 years of age.
In addition, this requirement only applies to children born of a US citizen overseas. A child born in the United States - no matter what the nationality of the parents or age of the parents - is automatically a native born citizen per US law.
Jeff…wonderful work!
This whole thing doesn't surprise me. I was in the Army and did Public Affairs. I would regularly come across things that were blatantly wrong with all the evidence to throw someone away for life and they would just seem to go away because no one wants to admit they were wrong or make the machine look bad. Compared to this, those things were nothing but yet they seemed to just go away.
Think for a minute. This is not about an ineligible guy trying to run for office who gets caught. This is about a man who already completely infiltrated our system and became a Senator. If he was busted...our ENTIRE system would need to admit it failed. By default they would have to admit that our national security is a joke considering someone who is not a "natural citizen" made it a “heartbeat away” from our countries highest office. Every elected official (not just democrats but republicans as well) would all look like fools along with half the nation and 75% of the media. Massive forces will do anything to make this go away. And guess what...the sheep (50% of the country) won't know.
I honestly feel you have a point five percent chance of anything coming of this before the election and zero chance afterwards.
It honestly makes me ill to think about how many people will blindly vote him into office.
I will continue to read and pray for justice!
Regards,
Bob
I think so, McCain would need to bring suit right? maybe his chance of getting certiorari would be better?
Never Give up! This is coming out! Of course it's going to be hard. Some of the most powerful people are trying to stop it, I'm spreading the word as fast as I can. Thank You Mr. Berg!
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AT: http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/
Perhaps it's already been mentioned, but as a person who donated the maximum to Hillary Clinton, I feel I have a right to know because Obama's stealing the nomination amounted to a loss of investment for me. If he cannot win, then all the money I've donated to the Democratic Party is also forfeit. There are so many others like me that we should be permitted to file a class-action suit.
-Portia E
If we vote for electors, and the electors vote for the candidate, one could argue the electors may have standing.
Berg could try and have an elector join him as a party to the suit.
Still pretty unlikely to succeed.
The media is the only court left to present this case.
A full show needs to be aired listing all of the compiled facts now known. Either way they try to spin this, it will spread until fully confronted.
With all the money being donated to different causes and lawyers for something we know will not be overturned, couldnt we donate to buy an hour's airtime?
CHANGE
In the late 1950's most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along promising Change, every Cuban was at least receptive. When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him... They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in.
He said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, and everyone followed. He said he would bring justice and equality to all, and everyone said "Praise the Lord!"
The young leader said, "I will be for change and I'll bring you change," everyone yelled, "Viva Fidel!" But by the time the executioner's guns went silent, the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes fleeing to Florida .
Luckily, we in America would never fall for a young leader who promised change without asking, WHAT change? Would we?
This is a really odd little sad corner of the wrold
People have been asking:
Posted by africanpress on October 29, 2008
A final agreement has been reached between African Press International (API) and Fox News Network (USA) on the dates to air the Michelle Obama tape arising from a discussion Mrs Obama had with the API two weeks ago. The show will take place any day/time from now, with a 15 minutes alert on when it is to take place. Other programmes will be interrupted. This is a precaution taken to avoid interference from any quarter.
In the agreement, Fox News Network will broadcast 39 minutes of the 54 minutes long tape. The whole tape cannot be aired unedited due to security reasons and especially due to the explosive political temperature in the country because of US Presidential elections that is just around the corner.
The tape will be aired in two portions by two separate units in the Network. API’s representative will appear live in one of the shows.
The parties have agreed that the information to be released to the public on the agreement will not include the naming of the units at Fox News Network that will air the tapes in order to avoid outside pressure and influence of any kind before the show has taken place. Nondisclosure of the name of the shows that will air the tapes has become necessary due to pressure from groups interested to block the release of the contents to the public.
Due to a huge interest in the tapes shown by some private individuals, groups belonging to some political camp(s) and persons connection to a section of intelligence network, it has been decided that the 54 minutes long unedited tape is to be kept outside the United States in safe custody of one of API’s Lawyers based in Ontario, Canada.
The day and time schedules of the broadcast will only be announced 15 minutes before the Show begins in order to avoid attempts to block the Show from airing the tapes.
Any pressure from any outside forces that may want to know the day and time schedules of the Show before-hand or any other details in the agreement will get no answers to their requests either from API or Fox News Network.
Chief Editor Korir/ African Press International - API
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-aired-any-daytime-from-now-api-and-fox-news-network-usa-in-a-final-agreement-on-the-airing-daystime/
Bob,
You're right. The situation is so pathetic that it makes me want to puke. I cannot believe that half the country are like zombies and this fraud got this far.
Keep up the good work Jeff. Thanks for the update. Tell Phil he really really needs to release the Obama granny audio tapes before the weekend. Millions of people have voted already, we're running out of time fast. Thanks.
We have 7 more days to find the truth about Obama's Birth place. I'm believing he was born in Hawaii, but at the sametime I don't believe he was not born in Hawaii.
i'm praying that obama won't to be the next president. if he becomes the president united states will be finish..
Obama's "online BC" imagine is so faked jmo.. my BC has more info, raised seal. and i was born in 1977in CA
So, the tape of Kenya grandma IS TRUE?
Focus, Focus, Focus-this is like a whole bunch of firecrackers going off all over the place. Pick the best issue (some lawyerly input needed) and stage a protest (not that many people are always needed-this doesnt require a cast of thousands-but it would be better) in a very public place-so it cant be ignored-in many cases in our past, it wasnt until public protests or demonstrations occurred that there was any attention paid or any results achieved. Attention needs to be drawn to this now-the media keeps sweeping it under the rug as the musings of wingnuts-and will continue to do so along with the Courts and Congress. Think about it-there has got to be a right to redress by the citizens under the Constitution-there cannot be any situation where the words in that document cannot be enforced by the Citizens-it is all about the rights of the "People" not the Government. The way this situation has played out doesnt make any sense-and when things dont make sense-theres usually something wrong-and this is very very wrong. The Founding Fathers might be a little disappointed in us thus far on this one. Time to stand up Chuck.
kathy wrote:
therefore Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II would no longer be a US citizen and is still a legal citizen of Indonesia.
That's incorrect.
Obama would not have lost his US citizenship even if he were nationalized as an Indonesian citizen.
According to the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act, the only way he could have lost his US citizenship is if he had not established permanent residence in the US by his twenty-fifth birthday.
Oh, and by the way, you left out:
Fact 7. There's not one shred of credible evidence that Obama was born anyplace other than Honolulu, Hawaii.
k
Jeff,
Thanks for the great reporting on this issue. Your blog is a lot easier to monitor than Berg's site.
I found an interesting, and very disturbing, article just published comparing Obama to Malcolm X.
http://www.condonshaw.com
If this appeal gets denied, it would be time for Petreaus to take over and liberate the US.
A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart
directs him toward the left.
Ecclesiastes 10:2
My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those given to
CHANGE; For their calamity will rise suddenly, And who knows the ruin those
two can bring?" - Proverbs 24:21-22
Here's the original video recording of Obama stating that US constitution is a flawed document and that the founding fathers were all blind. This video has only been out for a day and its already been seen by half a million people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4
I can't believe this guy hasn't been arrested yet!!! Where is the justice system?
Latest from API-
The Michelle Obama tapes to be aired any day/time from now: API and Fox News Network (USA) in a final agreement on the airing days/time.
Posted by africanpress on October 29, 2008
A final agreement has been reached between African Press International (API) and Fox News Network (USA) on the dates to air the Michelle Obama tape arising from a discussion Mrs Obama had with the API two weeks ago. The show will take place any day/time from now, with a 15 minutes alert on when it is to take place. Other programmes will be interrupted. This is a precaution taken to avoid interference from any quarter.
In the agreement, Fox News Network will broadcast 39 minutes of the 54 minutes long tape. The whole tape cannot be aired unedited due to security reasons and especially due to the explosive political temperature in the country because of the Presidential elections that is just around the corner, November 4th.
The tape will be aired in two portions by two separate units in the Network. API’s representative will appear live in one of the shows.
The parties have agreed that the information to be released to the public on the agreement will not include the naming of the units at Fox News Network that will air the tapes in order to avoid outside pressure and influence of any kind before the show has taken place. Nondisclosure of the name of the shows that will air the tapes has become necessary due to pressure from groups interested to block the release of the contents to the public.
Due to a huge interest in the tapes shown by some private individuals, groups belonging to some political camp(s) and persons connected to a section of an intelligence network, it has been decided that the 54 minutes long unedited tape is to be kept outside the United States in safe custody of one of API’s Lawyers based in Ontario, Canada.
The day and time schedules of the broadcast will only be announced 15 minutes before the Show begins in order to avoid attempts to block the Show from airing the tapes.
Any pressure from any outside forces that may want to know the exact day and time schedule of the Show before-hand or any other details in the agreement will get no answers to their requests either from API or Fox News Network.
The decision to have the above information public was a difficult one due to the sensitivity of the case and huge interest against, and for, the release of the contents of the tape for public consumption.
Chief Editor Korir/ African Press International - API
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-aired-any-daytime-from-now-api-and-fox-news-network-usa-in-a-final-agreement-on-the-airing-daystime/
API has openly named Fox News as its supposed contact for the Michelle Obama tapes. We'll see how this goes.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/the-michelle-obama-tapes-to-be-aired-any-daytime-from-now-api-and-fox-news-network-usa-in-a-final-agreement-on-the-airing-daystime/
This is how you contact the person who told Fox News that the LA Times isn't interested in revisiting the video:
Nancy Sullivan
Executive Director, Communications
213-237-6160
nancy.sullivan@latimes.com
Slam her inbox.
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2008/10/27/obama-says-constitution-flawed-framers-didnt-get-it-right/
"Obama Says Constitution Flawed, Framers Didn’t Get It Right"
2 videos
I don't know what exactly is meant by injury but I haven't slept more than 3 hours at a time in over a month becasue of this. I can't function due to the stress and the overwhelming fear that Obama will be able to run for President. I may need to see a therapist.
Hannity is also advertising this: http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1059821
Everyone needs to turn your TV on to ABC at 8:00p.m. today (Wednesday, Oct 29).
ABC is the only major network not running the Obama 30-minute commercial.
NBC, CBS and Fox will all be showing his $1million infomercial from 8:00-8:30p.m.
ABC initially refused to make scheduling changes to accommodate the commercial. When ABC later changed its mind, the Obama campaign told ABC it was too late; they said they no longer had the funds (!!!).
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2008/10/democratic-pres.html
If there was anything to this in fact, the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine would be working overtime to get it out in the public eye. Every second-tier republican would be pushing every possible button they could to get this looked at closely.
My guess is simply that there is nothing to any of this, which is why republican leadership hasn't done anything with it.
"The best way to stop Obama from becoming President is not through the court system but through the ballot box," says Jeff.
This is precisely the argument that is keeping dissident Democrats supporting Obama.
There is another problem too, fraud. Take a look at Lynne Landes site:
http://www.thelandesreport.com/VotingSecurity.htm
Lynne Landes says: Today in America there is no reason to believe in election results.
Republicans have not much supported campaigns against the kind of vote fraud that is facilitated by computerisation.
Perhaps they have thought that the fraud would always favour the Republicans. But why should this be so? Electoral fraud can cut two ways.
Jeff is not giving good advice.
Must be a Obama supporter translating the tape. It shouldn't take that long.
I do not like the new format at the Berg site. It is impossible to find and read the new postings. they are random throughout a maze. Also the typeset is very small and hard to read.
I used to read everything now that is impossible. I can only skim a few items.
Also it now is getting filled up by obot trash talk. This is destroying the site as people argue with them. I do not think the new site is really for the better.
I can not even post a message there that I can expect Berg to eventually read. Here I can expect this to be read and you will let him know.
Why can't Mr Berg claim that if Obama is President then his taxes will be much higher as a direct cause and therefore there is direct personal harm
Say What!?! Camp Obama Offers API 3 Mil For Michelle Rant
October 29, 2008 at 12:45 am (Barack Obama, Politics) (African Press International, audio tapes, Just Say No Deal, Michelle Obama, PUMA)
Oh, baby, bay-bay! It’s getting hot in herre! African Press International claims they’ve been offered 3 million dollars for tapes they swear to possess of Michelle Obama spilling the beans about her husband’s adoptive status during a far-ranging general rant at them and the world. Angered that a black site would question Barack about anything, Ms. O supposedly strongly implied that if they played nicer, she’d hook ‘em up once hubby became prez. Now that API has reported a deal in place with FOX News to air the tapes, they say the O Team is in a panic:
Six hours after the release of information by API on the planned broadcast by Fox News Network of�the Michelle Obama tape, in accordance with an agreement that has been reached between API and Fox News Network, API� was contacted by Obama’s Campaign Manager.
Those who are close to the democratic presidential candidate must be�desperate to win the elections no matter what, otherwise they would not have taken such bold step to contact API with an offer of a bribe in order to stop the airing of the tape.
�Obama’s campaign manager�contacted API by telephone and�email offering 3 million US dollars followed with a request to�API to�cancel the deal with Fox News Network.
Ten days ago API�received the first request�to accept 2 million US dollars�by Mr Ed Hale, President�of Plains Radio, Texas -�USA, in an effort to suppress the information from reaching the public before the coming US Presidential elections.
�API has now taken a decision to contact the American Embassy in Oslo, Norway as soon as possible in order to report the matter and hand over the�evidence�for investigative purposes.
API’s Canadian lawyer is expected to fly�to Oslo shortly in order to assist in the legal matters that arise from the bribery attempt.
API’s Chief editor is expected to travel to New York, together with the Canadian lawyer, where he will appear live in one of the shows that� will air the Michelle Obama tape.
Okaaaaay? Wonder if they’ve got a tape of that?
Gotta hand it to API, though. If this is a hoax, it’s a damned good one.
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/breaking-transcript-of-obama-khalidi-tape/
BREAKING: Transcript of Obama-Khalidi Tape (please send to everyone you know, and people you have not met yet. Meet people today just to send this to them)
While Sam Zell is selling out the future of his own people by refusing to release the tape of Barack Obama toasting known anti-Semite and
PLO functionary, Rashid Khalidi, I have been fortunate enough to receive a probable transcript of the toast…
HERE IT IS:
****BEGINNING OF TRANSCRIPT***********
Um, ah….Salaam
Um….My distinguished guests….ughh….it is an honor to be here…
uhh….It is truly refreshing to be surrounded by such a large group of people in which…uh.. I can truly see eye-to-eye with…uh…and completely agree…
Reverend Farrakhan..ughh…great to see you tonight…you always look great in a yellow bow-tie…and..uhh…tonight is no exception….
Bill..Bernadine….I see you everyday…so I don’t need to say much…but…ughh…you know I love you….keep doing the work you do….it’s time to start a revolution
Reverend Wright…..ughh…you are the father that I never had….I’ve never missed a sermon…and…uhh….I never will…
Michelle, while I find your frown so beautiful….I hope to one day make you proud of this country..and uhh…happy…and finally see you smile….
uhhhhh…with that being said…If everyone could please hold off from hitting the hookah…I would like to say a toast..to my, and Yasser Arafat’s, best friend….Mr. Rashid Khalidi….
Rashid…..you are my best friend….spiritual compass…..and baby sitter (crowd laughs..and cries)
I want to thank you for your constant indoctrination….I want to thank you for your imput..and..uhhh…reminders…that Israel is a constant sore….and..uhh…needs to be eliminated off the map….
I also want to thank you for introducing me to your many contacts in the middle east…I am sure…uh…that their imput……and uh…money…..will be of great use to me as I run for President of these great 57 states…..
While David Axelrod may be forcing you to move away from me during the campaign….I am confident…that..uhh…our friendship will not only remain..but actually prosper..during our time of absence….
Rashid…you ARE my middle east adviser….and you ALWAYS will be…
Here’s to Rashid……(A chant of Messiah can be heard in the background….also audible…is a voice (thought to be Ayer’s) screaming REVOLUTION…REVOLUTION..over and over…)
Salaam….
**************END OF TRANSCRIPT*************
IN LIGHT OF THE LOS ANGELES TIMES NOT RELEASING THEIR COPY OF THE TAPE….CONSIDER THIS PROBABLE TRANSCRIPT TO BE ACCURATE, AND FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE AN HONEST ASSESSMENT OF SENATOR OBAMA, PRIOR TO CASTING THEIR VOTE
If any Obamabots object to my writing, please call the Los Angeles Times, and convince them to release the original copy to prove me wrong.
L.A Times Contact Information:
Los Angeles Times
202 W. 1st St.
Los Angeles, CA 90012
Phone: (213) 237-5000
Fax: (213) 237-7679
IF FOX reveals the alleged MO tape that allegedly states that BO was adopted in Indonesia BEFORE the Supreme decision to hear or not, wouldn't that give Berg more evidence backing up his own case of O's ineligibility? I thought that Berg had included that second situation in his case...just did not have evidence.
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