Mr. Berg Goes to Washington
Today, should everything go according to plan, only five days after his federal lawsuit against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was dismissed for lack of standing from the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, attorney Philip Berg will file his appeal in Philadelphia and, once it is docketed with the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, will travel to Washington, D.C. to file a Petition for Writ of Certiorari with the United States Supreme Court.
There, Berg says, should things progress on schedule, he will be accompanied by a television crew from Fox News Channel.
"Despite the setback we received on Friday," Berg said, "I feel as though we really do have momentum here. And, while this course of action may not be your standard fare, I think that we're too close to the election and too close to a constitutional crisis in America to not pursue this to the best of our ability."
The non-standard course of action Berg mentioned, it seems, is the concept of appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court without first exhausting all options at the Circuit Court level. By appealing at the Third Circuit, the case could have been heard by a panel of three judges, if not more, and then taken to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary. Still, Berg insists that due to the argument schedules at the Third Circuit and the nation being less than a week removed from Election Day, the chance of his action against Barack Obama being heard in time is slim at best.
Now, as was written yesterday at America's Right, the odds that the U.S. Supreme Court will grant certiorari and choose to hear Berg's case are razor-thin. Each year, the Supreme Court is presented with approximately 8,000 petitions for certiorari but only grants about 75 to 120. Berg, however, is not extremely concerned.
"Of course, the odds are long," Berg said. "But this case does have to do with the prevention of a guaranteed constitutional crisis and, even if it is not heard in time or at all, the national media should have no choice but to pay attention."
Even if the case were heard, Berg faces long odds in the courtroom as well, as the standing doctrine as it stands now does not lean in his favor. Also from yesterday's update:
To have standing, a plaintiff must satisfy a three-prong test. He or she must prove (1) injury in fact, (2) causation, and (3) redressibility -- that they've sustained more than just general harm, that the harm can be traced to the conduct of the defendant, and that adjudication of the matter can provide a remedy to that harm. Berg's biggest hurdle, so far, has been establishing injury in fact.
Now, while there is a three-prong test for standing, there is no such definitive test for establishing what exactly constitutes an injury in fact. Instead, whether or not a plaintiff has sustained an injury in fact depends upon how that plaintiff's factual allegations are perceived by the judge on what has been described as a sliding scale of speculation, creativity and remoteness. In other words, if the factual support of a plaintiff's claims is deemed too speculative, too remote, or too creative, then the judge may not find injury, and visa versa.
In the past, the United States Supreme Court has held that a plaintiff must have a "personal stake" in the matter being adjudicated. This, of course, is to ensure that the matter belongs before the court in the first place. More recently, however, the Court has paid greater attention to, and awarded standing for, plaintiffs who can show enough of an injury so as to provide something along the lines of a good contest among legal rivals.
In Constitutional Law class last year, we studied a few cases while looking at the standing issue. One was a case in which a group of environmentalists were given standing by the Supreme Court because the need for preservation of "environmental well-being" was enough to prove injury. In another case, an association in Washington state was deemed to have standing even though it was the individual members, and not the association itself, which could be found to have had the requisite "personal stake."
That being said, in the unlikely event that this case is heard by the Supreme Court, Berg will need to argue, certainly among other things, that the injury deemed too generalized by Judge Surrick is indeed enough to show injury in fact and therefore gain standing to sue. Only then can this case be heard on its merits.
All that being said, Berg says, he takes heart in knowing that while the law as it stands now may be difficult to overcome, he is at the very least arguing from the perspective of America's founders and in the best interests of the American people.
"Should my case be heard, and it should," Berg said, "Barack Obama will need to argue that the American people have no right to challenge whether or not a candidate for president of the United States actually is constitutionally eligible, in the eyes of our founding fathers, to serve in the office of the presidency. That's not right. That's not right at all. If the American people are not injured by a fraudulent candidate collecting $600 million while campaigning for an office he cannot constitutionally hold, if the American people do not have standing, then who does?"
UPDATE, 2:00pm:
The filing at the United States Supreme Court will be happening tomorrow morning and not today, according to Philip Berg, who explained that he still must attend to other commitments associated with his legal practice and was tied up in court later than planned. Berg assured America's Right that, from a conversation he had with representatives at Fox News Channel, a television crew will be meeting him in Washington D.C. to follow his progress as he files his Petition for Writ of Certiorari.
Furthermore, Berg said, his interview with Fox News Channel's Rick Leventhal, taped yesterday, should air this evening in either the 6:00 or 7:00 hour, just before Barack Obama's 30-minute infomercial.


76 comments:
Count me in! I'm injured!
This just up at AT. Don't miss it.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_enforces_the_constitutions.html
Jeff,
This is my first comment here but, after reading since Mr. Berg's appearance on The Savage Nation, I have to offer a hearty THANK YOU for the exhaustive work you've obviously dedicated to this issue of utmost urgency.
That being said, I hope and pray that the SCOTUS will err on the side of the Constitution and compel Sen. Obama to produce the required documentation. In the unfortunate event that Mr. Berg's case is tossed without being so much as heard by the SCOTUS, please help convince Mr. Berg to release the Sarah Obama audiotape. Regardless of whether the courts give this a fair shake or not, I cannot emphasize the potential impact of Sen. Obama's own grandmother admitting to being in the delivery room in Kenya. Even without MSM coverage there are enough sources in the various forms of media that the audio couldn't be buried nor lost in the shuffle of constant B.S. passed off as "news".
This story needs to be heard...the citizens of the United States have a right to ask these questions...the media, court system and Congress are ignoring one of the potentially most dangerous Constitutional crises we've ever dreamed of. These are basics requests that ANY righteous candidate for ANY office, in ANY municipality should and, with the exception of the fraudulent man presented to our country as the equivalent of the Messiah, should, could and would happily produce. The mere fact that he's exerted such time, money and resources to avoid having to provide the necessary documents for verification is extremely damning. The American people are not as stupid as they, obviously, believe we are...the simple release of potential questions regarding eligibility (on a large scale) will drive sane Americans from puppet clown in short order.
I first heard of this effort to simply verify eligibility and the refusal of the "Teflon Tom" (as a black Conservative friend of mine calls him) to do so about 6 months ago and dismissed it as graping for straws desperation...until I looked more in to the history of this fraud and discovered what a shady course his entire candidacy has been based off of. At this point, I have no doubt that this documents aren't being produced because they simply don't exist and is perpetrating a gigantic fraud on the entire country.
I sought to keep Clinton, Gore and Kerry out of the Oval Office out of fear off the damage they'd do to the issues I consider core values.
However...THIS ELECTION IS DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED AND STOPPING OBAMA AT THE POLLS, IN THE COURTS OR AT THE MEETING OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS THE ONLY HOPE WE MAY HAVE TO STOP THE DAMAGE FACED BY OUR FREEDOM AND OUR COUNTRY'S FUTURE!
I pray that the defenders of the Constitution, the SCOTUS, does the right thing in this matter.
Please help convince Mr. Berg to get that audio tape out to the public ASAP and let's derail this nonsense!
Otherwise, I pray for the future of your children and mine.
May God Bless the efforts of yourself, Philip J. Berg and all the righteous Americans that see through this obvious charade.
Jeff, you said in the last post you were going to bed. I knew you would be up.: ) Check out API's website for breaking news.
Obama Camp offers API 3 Million for MO Tapes.
God, I hope this is real!
Anyone who contributed money to the campaign's illegally constructed fundraising scam should certainly have standing right? There are multiple levels of fraud going on here.
Maybe he should have contributed to Obama then brought the case.
So much for going to bed early Jeff. We appreciate your dedication.
If Berg (by some miracle) is successful, can anyone explain to me what happens?
Would a vote for Obama be a vote for Biden?
Would the Democratic party be removed from the running altogether?
What happens to pre-election votes? Pre-voters obviously would have had no idea they were voting for President Biden and a Vice Prez to be named later.
It's pretty sticky. What does the law say on this?
...
My other concern is that if the court compels Obama to produce a birth certificate, one will appear.
Does Mr. Berg have experts ready to examine the legitimacy of any and all documents in a timely manner?
Phil needs to send a credit card donation into the Obama campaign in the name of each Justice who sits on the Supreme Court, to prove that fraud is being perpetrated against the Citizens of the United States.
The Justices can join Fred Flintstone, Barney Rubble and the other characters who have donated from only God knows where to Obama's campaign.
Make it personal Phil.
Go with God, Mr. Berg, and good luck. Thank you for all your hard work to save our republic.
Juat a newsflash on another matter. The LA tapes are not being released as the LA Times is owned by the Chicago Tribune.
Congratulations on the filing of the Supreme Court action. Best of Luck-we need it-Thank you Mr. Berg.
You go Mr Berg! May God bless you for your efforts.
If this man is allowed to run for president without showing proof that he is a US citizen, then we might as well start letting all the illegals vote too.
May God Bless the USA.
- John
Perry, Ohio
our founding fathers are turning in their graves to think that the courts have no urgency or outrage over this!
I have kept up with this blog for a few weeks, and appreciate all your hard work.
And then we have the latest in the MO tape saga (whether or not it's really real remains to be seen):
Sen. Obama’s Campaign Manager Allegedly Offers $3 million for API to Cancel Fox News Deal
-Phil
Any American that has ever stood up and said the Pledge of Allegience is implying they will uphold the Constitution of the United States and therefore should have standing.
Would it help if we emailed the courts and encouraged them to consider Berg's case? Also, would not the Justice Department be the ones to oversee the eligibility of candidates?
This is how you contact the person who told Fox News that the LA Times isn't interested in revisiting the video:
Nancy Sullivan
Executive Director, Communications
213-237-6160
nancy.sullivan@latimes.com
Don't let up.
Jeff; The question still remains-even if Standing were granted-there is another question. IN cases where Default Judgements are granted and then the opposing party seeks to Vactae the Default there is a two pronged test and the second one is that there be a reasonable degree of success on the merits. In this case-what is our "reasonable degree of success"
What do we have other than a "belief" that the document presented is not real, or the "belief" or "suspicion" that Obama has deceived all those entrusted with the vetting process-its almost like-where is our, to use a criminal term, "probable cause". If the Court is not given the answer to this question-they are not going to grant standing-even if youre standing on your head. Its a case where we are placed in the procedural position of having to show our best evidence to get in the door this time.
Jeff: Pursue the thought with Phillip Berg to ask Senator Hillary Clinton to join his suit in the interest of all AMERICAN CITIZENS. She was voter frauded out of her rightful place on the DNC ticket by the Obama Campaign. She has standing in that she lost by fraud and deceit. BFF
God be with you, Mr. Berg! The thing that scares me is that the line between democracy and socialism is not too hard to see. The line between socialism and communism is a lot harder to find. Americans may rightly want change, but, as the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for!" Obama and his cronies in the democratic party are heading our Country in the wrong direction, and I applaud Mr. Berg for his courage and for taking the initiative on this issue! The Obama Express must somehow be derailed, and now!
FoxNews is dissing him on the StrategyRoom
Hello Jeff,
Thanks for your updates on Berg vs. Obama.
Honestly, this American judicial system is very sick. How can a citizen not be able to challenge a running candidate for the PotUSA position when there are significant doubts to warrant such a challenge?!!
This American judicial system is not about justice and fairness and honesty, it is about money who can buy you the best lawyers to navigate the maze of laws and tricks only to "defend" yourself or to defend your cause.
Those who get positive outcomes in courts are not those who are on the side of justice but those who are with the biggest pockets!! Again, there is very little justice served in many cases!
Very sad I have to say.
Apparently, the API tapes will be aired soon on Fox. Get your video recorder ready!
The two cases filed by Berg on the appeals court and the supreme court, how can they be dealt with and solved before election day?
I like to be positive but I am not too much concerning these two appeals!
Well, let us wait and see.
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FEMIDA is blind and slow. Only WE THE PEOPLE can "solve" this case on Nov 4 (if information about this case gets to US THE PEOPLE through National TV's breakthrough).
Maybe I should file suit then. After all, being in the military I took an oath to defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. That should grant me standing, right?
What is going to be used to establish (argue) before the Court that Obama is a "fraudulent candidate" so that they then may find on the Standing issue? In spite of what we believe we know-
Wouldn't the release of the alleged Michelle Obama tape with the alleged info re: B. Obama's Indonesian adoption bolster Berg's case and give him some standing with evidence/proof? FOX is supposedly now arranging the program to release the MO tape info...and appears to have on the ground reporter/s in Indonesia.
It seems to me that Hillary would have all the standing needed. Would she consider a lawsuit? If she cares about our constitution and all of her disenfranchised voters, she wouldn't hesitate.
Oh, Penelope! Hillary has invested *way* too much time and energy into campaigning for Obama to turn around and file a lawsuit against him!
I can't imagine that any current legislator would bring any kind of action against Obama. At this point it would be like turning against the sunshine. Just way too risky for anyone in politics.
I don't understand why all of this didn't happen much sooner. There was a time when it might have had good effect, but I fear that time has long since passed.
Remember that, technically, the Supreme Court (or Court of Appeals, for that matter) can only look at the evidence presented to the lower court. This is NOT a new proceeding, but rather a review of the proceeding before it.
How can it be that BO does not have to show proof of US citizenship to become the POTUS? That just blows my mind. How can this be? especially with all the red flags...
You guys continue to crack me up.
Here's my comment from a few days ago when you were first discussing the judge's decision...
The judge decided the case based on precedent:
"Hollander and Jones are instructive. In Hollander, the plaintiff alleged that the Republican party primary candidate, John McCain, was ineligible to be President because he...was not a 'natural born citizen'...." October 24, 2008 Memorandum and Order pg. 12; emphasis added.)
Hollander was dismissed for lack of standing and was the basis for the dismissal in Berg v. Obama.
Hello? Do you see the hilarity here? The same people who cheered when the judge decided "correctly" that you couldn't challenge McCain's citizenship are the same people who think it's a "conspiracy" that another judge decided the same way in favor of Obama. You can't have it both ways.
Remember you small minded desperados McCain himself donated $448,873 to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research , be very careful what you ask for. As for Obama's citizenship, those straws are getting fewer http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Perhaps you should look into Palin's secessionist ways, hiring of her own friends into Alaska's govt. or here how about Mccain's coverup at the naval based fatal car crash, why won't they release those records.hmmmmmmm, or Meet Sarah Palin’s radical right-wing pals http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
or
Another AIP Official Says Palin Was at 1994 Convention*
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/another-aip-off.html
or
The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides, Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
or
McCain board member of USCWF- Nazi Ties + Iran-Contra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ouNTqsqjo&feature=related
or
McCains Club Fed at taxpayers expense, 1 of several October surprises?
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081110/tuttle
or
Fatal McCain car Crash why the cover-up?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/news-orgs-investigate-pos_n_138449.html
Bunch of flippin whining lemmings, good luck! Your gonna need it!
Jeff, did Berg modify his "standing' portion of his case before he submits it to the Supreme Court. Please enlighten.
Also, did you ask him about the Kenyan Grandmother tape, as your readers asked you too, and tell him how important they are right now to release?
Jeff,
Please have Mr. Berg contact me ASAP as I have contributed to Mr. Obama's campaign and feel damaged as he is not eligible. I used one of those non-traceable pre-paid credit cards.
;-)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413_pf.html
Anonymous 10:53 a.m. Where did you hear that FOX is making room for the API story and that they have people on the ground in Indonesia?
Jeff, I know you have defended Judge Surrick in the dismissal of Berg's case. However, Larry Sinclair brought up a small detail on the documents that is taking off like wildfire! Apparently in the first rendition of the court dismissal there was a fax number at the bottom that did not below to the court or the attorneys for either side of the case. They, supposedly, have now been traced to Michelle Obama's old law firm! I just read it on Greta Wire and another blog as well. Can you find out more about this? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but this is amazing if true.
Why does Sarah Palins personal email get ransacked, and Joe the Plumber's personal files get aired, but Obama gets a free ride for using his senate email to conduct correspondence with a radical Odinga?
Is there not a law against that?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77508
In my opinion there is zero chance of this case being heard.
1. Berg does not have standing
2. If Obama loses it is irrelevant
3. If Obama wins hearing this case would lead to too much civil unrest.
If you look at France and England both of them have caved in to threatened civil unrest to make concessions.
Westerns are too devoted to the love of the god of Money and don't have the stomach for an internal civil war.
Berg, and you as well Jeff for supporting him are my heroes! If we never take action, we'll never know the truth of who this Obama guy really is. Teresa in Michigan
All this worrying and wringing of hands, and it is worth all of that, but the bigger question is - what can we do about it?
Write to any and all who will listen. Family, friends, congress men and women, even the deaf, dumb and blind MSM. Organize protests. Let's help Mr. Berg as much as we can. Our founding fathers did not sit on their backsides waiting for something to happen. They made it happen. Now we need to do the same.
Why not have everyone protest in front of the county and state court houses of the nation when Mr. Berg submits his case? That should get some attention.
Please check out this article by Dr. Edwin Vieira.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
I think it presents a better argument on 'standing' than any I have previously read.
Jeff Schreiber said...
Remember that, technically, the Supreme Court (or Court of Appeals, for that matter) can only look at the evidence presented to the lower court. This is NOT a new proceeding, but rather a review of the proceeding before it.
-Then what does Berg hope to accomplish? The case never reached discovery.
I just heard on Bill O'Reilley's Radio Station that not to worry that they have the real Hawaii original Birth certificate. What is the truth?????
Tangential issue:
Does Ossiah have a US passport? How and when and where did he get it?
Anyone who's been exposed to his smarmy NLP-laced speeches has been injured.
STANDIND, BY LAW, TAKES A BACKSEAT TO A CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE....
FRAUD COMMITED BY A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, NO LESS A SENATOR, CONSTITUTES "INJURY", REGARDLESS....
AS WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THIS, AS IS MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION, BEFORE A CANDIDATE CAMPAIGNS, AND WASTES OUR TIME, AND MONEY, AND POSSIBLY OUR VOTES...
IT'S A FELONY TO ATTEMPT TO VOTE UNDER FRAUDULENT CONDITIONS....THEREFORE IT'S ALSO A FELONY TO DEFRAUD THE VOTERS FOR SAID VOTE...(ONE FELONY PER VOTE)....
IS THIS JUDGE COMPELLED BY LAW TO BOW TO PROCEDURE, OR THE CONSTITUTION HE TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND, (AS IN THIS CASE, THERE IS SOME DISCREPANCY)...THE QUESTION IS NOT OF FAULT, OR WRONG DOING, BUT WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR DOING SO....
REGARDS,
JEFF
Standing is a farce. The majority of the cases of Fed vs. or State vs. defendent have no standing at its core. The legal fction of State in 99% of the cases cannot prove injury in fact. The courts and are judicial system is a sham.
Jeff,
I also appreciate all that you, Mr. Berg or anyone else are doing to bring out the TRUTH about Obama. I have read in the past about Obama going to Kenya to campaign for his cousin, Odenga. He was apparently running for President against a pro-American gov't at the time. According to what I read, this was in 2006 when he was a senator from ILL. The Kenyan gov't lodged an official complaint against Obama's passport abuse and misconduct. The U.S. State Dept. denounced his actions as being in direct opposition to U.S.Nat'l Security. IF THIS IS TRUE, why has it not been brought out...can't we get some more information about this...if he was denounced as being in direct opposition to U.S. National security, HOW can he be allowed to run for the Presidencey?
When Barack was elected to the US Senate in IL. he gained the seat by default. He successfully challenged each opponent in court and had their names removed from the ballot before the election because they were not qualfied. If Obama had standing in his cases to challenge a candidates qualifications and successfully have the court rule them ineligible, why don't we have the same standing to challenge his qualifications?
Can those IL. cases help Berg in the Supreme Court?
It is my understanding that there is NO Constitutional right for an individual to vote for President of The United States. We vote for ELECTIVE REPRESENTATIVES.
Given that fact, I can see how Berg has no standing, but I am praying to God that he wins or at the very least gets enough media coverage to sway the election.
I also wrote to my Congressmen who DO seem to have standing, asking them to launch an investigation.
Hannity is now reporting that an ex-Acorn employee is testifying in court and confirming voter fraud IN COOPERATION WITH OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN!!! The tower of Babel is coming down - get away from the bottom.
I have heard today there are 100,000 convicted felons who have registered to vote in Florida and there is nothing they can do about it by election day, How is this possible that these votes are going to go thru
We already know Ohio is a tainted election with its 200,000 questionable registrations that have not been provided to the district to check by the Democratic Secretary of State who actually went into court so she would not have to do it. We know people have registered and voted in Ohio who were not residents
There are 13 states where ACORN is being investigated for voter registration FRAUD.
For the last week I have heard and read about contributions that are fraudulent to the Obama Campaign and this is not being investigated as far as I have heard
There are no records of Obama college records they have not been released, Instead of his medical records he gave a letter saying he was in good health, College thesis MIA
Never really proved he was actually born in this country or that he was not adopted by his step father in Indonesia.
He has ties to radicals and terrorist and now another a spokesperson for the PLO with no real investigation into any of these ties.
It seems to me every time a question does pop up Obama’s campaign say’s “people aren’t interested in these issue’s they want to talk about the economy” and never really respond
WELL YES WE ARE INTERESTED!! I’d like to know who the hell we are putting into office.
What ever happen to investigative reporters? Are there none left to investigate any of these allegations and put it on the front page of their newspapers and report on the evening news. We have been done wrong by the mainstream media they have ignored everything and did nothing to look into these claims. Are they so interested in getting their candidate elected that they DON”T CARE or WORSE.
I find it hard to believe that even 20-30 years ago these allegations would have went ignored by the reporters of yesteryear. Is there no pride left.
Hello everyone! WE need everyone to listen up and participate if you are in Philly area tomorrow! Go to this link and send to everyone you know within driving distance of Philadelphia, PA. Berg is going to file his lawsuit with the United States Supreme Court regarding Obama NOT being a “natural born” citizen. Please read and pass it along to any blogsite you can asap.
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/supreme-court-rally-philip-j-berg-october-30-2008-supreme-court-steps-defend-the-constitution/
A 3 million dollar offer from Obama camp to API to cancel Fox News airing Michelle tapes? Isn't that bribery? How much can this guy get away with?
Obama’s campaign manager contacted API by telephone and email offering 3 million US dollars followed with a request to API to cancel the deal with Fox News Network.
Ten days ago API received the first request to accept 2 million US dollars by Mr Ed Hale, President of Plains Radio, Texas - USA, in an effort to suppress the information from reaching the public before the coming US Presidential elections.
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/news-flash-obamas-campaign-manager-offers-3-million-dollars-to-api-in-connection-with-michelle-obama-tape-planned-to-be-aired-by-fox-news-network/
Judge Surrick ruled that hiscourt does not have subject matter jurisdiction over Berg vs.Federal Election Commission. But, on page 28 of his opinion he admits that it is an agency subject to 5 U.S.C. 552. Whether or not Mr. Berg filed acomplaint or had the opportunity to file acomplaint with the Federal Election Commission goes to the merits of the case, not to the issue of subject matter jurisdiction. Judge Surrick's Order dated October 24, 2008 is clearly in error.
from Mainemom
earlier in these comments there was a link to the API site, and I checked it out.
Does anybody know if this API is a legit organization, or is the editor playing a hoax?
is there really a tape, and is it really going to FOX?
I pulled up a ballot application for Texas and I just need to sign an affidavit saying that I meet the requirements. There is no need to provide a birth certificate. Seems to me that the state attorney general would need sue Obama in a state court for lying on the affidavit. He would need evidence to pursue his case. Is the evidence strong enough or is it just speculation? Seems to me that citizens should be blanketing their state attorney general's office with telephone calls in this matter. Most attorney generals' offices investigate complaints ASAP if there are a lot of complaints. They would then probably just call Obama asking him to provide the information without needing a court case (unless he refuses to supply the documents).
Jeff,
This is a very good article written by Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
Please read it. Maybe Mr. Berg could read it too.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
Thanks
Comic relief - tongue in cheek - the origin of conspiracies:
Berg is busy tonight, but where? Allow me to wear the tin foil hat I wear when I'm dreaming (if not psychotic).
Berg was named as being associated with the highly suspect API.
API reporting tapes coming out ASAP.
Blogger claiming Fox will run Michelle tapes during Obama's special.
AH! Now - back to reality. That was fun.
anonymous wrote:
A 3 million dollar offer from Obama camp to API to cancel Fox News airing Michelle tapes? Isn't that bribery? How much can this guy get away with?
How much bullshit can you swallow?
k
This Just in!!
From MommaE talk radio:
"RALLY AT SUPREME COURT FOR PHIL BERG!!"
“Philip J Berg will go to the US Supreme Court on Thursday, October 30, 2008.
Show up at the steps of the Supreme Court and help defend the Constitution.
Please get your signs made today and tonight and be ready for tomorrow!
We need as large a Crowd as we can get to be waiting at the steps of Supreme Court for Mr. Berg, the person meeting him at the Train Station as well as Will Bower who will be there to accompany him there.
Fox News will also be at the Train Station and will follow them all the way to the Supreme Court, filming everything.”
See full details, suggestions for signs and some do’s and dont’s here:
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/supreme-court-rally-philip-j-berg-october-30-2008-supreme-court-steps-defend-the-constitution/
AND SPREAD THE WORD!!
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm
"In disposing of the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, which squarely presents the question of Obama’s true citizenship, the presiding judge complained that Berg “would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory.”
This is exceptionally thin hogwash.
A proper judicial inquiry into Obama’s eligibility for “the Office of President” will not deny his supporters a “right” to vote for him—rather, it will determine whether they have any such “right” at all. For, just as Obama’s “right” to stand for election to “the Office of President” is contingent upon his being “a natural born Citizen,” so too are the “rights” of his partisans to vote for him contingent upon whether he is even eligible for that “Office.” If Obama is ineligible, then no one can claim any “right” to vote for him. Indeed, in that case every American who does vote has a constitutional duty to vote against him."
VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!
Please read NOW
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com
10/29/08 4:59PM
More Obama weirdness rains from the sky.
Love it or hate it, the impossible looks true.
Scientific and forensic stylometric analyses independently establish William Ayers authorship of Obama's 'Dreams From My Father.'
"At the heart of my message is that Barack Obama is an impostor, the Milli Vanilli of politics, a man who has been lip-synching for the last 13 years to lyrics pre-recorded by, among others, Bill Ayers."
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79403
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79391
Avoid the API site; it infect your system with exceptionally nasty malware.
That closing paragraph ("In disposing of the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, which squarely presents the question of Obama’s true citizenship, the presiding judge complained that Berg “would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and who underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary in living memory.” ) was obviously written by the Ossiah camp for the judge. What horse pucky!!
There is nothing via Fox News...
what's up?
How much bullshit can you swallow?
k
October 29, 2008 4:53 PM
re:
Too close to the target, am I? If you reply in the same manner, I will know that I am right on. (Profanity is a small mind's way of expressing itself)
Welp looks like Mr. Berg won't be on Fox tonight afterall. Kind of disappointed. I swear Obama is already threatening them.
Plankton at 11:48 AM said:
“Hollander was dismissed for lack of standing and was the basis for the dismissal in Berg v. Obama.
Hello? Do you see the hilarity here? The same people who cheered when the judge decided "correctly" that you couldn't challenge McCain's citizenship are the same people who think it's a "conspiracy" that another judge decided the same way in favor of Obama. You can't have it both ways.”
Plankton, there is no “hilarity” and no inconsistency here! In your eagerness to insult the intelligence of those who disagree with the current decision in the Berg lawsuit, you fail to note that one of the KEY differences between the Hollander case and the Berg case is the fact that one turns on an “issue of law” and the other turns on an “issue of fact.” In the McCain situation (the Hollander case) what was in dispute and needed judicial determination was THE LAW. All the relevant “facts” concerning McCain’s birth are known. What Hollander complained about is an unclear law. He claimed that a court needs to determine what the LAW is that applies to McCain’s birth. Hollander had no standing to present his claim because the possibility that a judicial construction of the unsettled LAW could go against McCain was to remote to constitute actual injury to a mere voter.
Such however in not the case in Berg’s lawsuit against Obama. Here, the law is not in dispute. That is, if the FACTS are as Berg has alleged them to be (i.e., Obama was born in Kenya, etc.), the law applicable to those facts is clear: OBAMA IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AND CANNOT SERVE AS POTUS UNDER THE CONSTITUTON. There is nothing remote or uncertain about an actual injury to the voter if the FACTS are such that the candidate is constitutionally ineligible serve as POTUS. Note, furthermore, that in the present state of the Berg lawsuit (dismissal for lack of standing), the FACTS as alleged by Berg are deemed to be true – that is, for the purposes of the current state of the Berg action, OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA AND IS NOT A NATURAL BOR CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.
I cannot envision a greater actual injury to a voter than to be asked to vote for (and listen to ad nauseaum) a candidate for POTUS who is not eligible to serve in such capacity.
Erika
"Furthermore, Berg said, his interview with Fox News Channel's Rick Leventhal, taped yesterday, should air this evening in either the 6:00 or 7:00 hour, just before Barack Obama's 30-minute infomercial."
Alas, nothing happened.
Any explanations?
anonymous wrote:
re:
Too close to the target, am I? If you reply in the same manner, I will know that I am right on. (Profanity is a small mind's way of expressing itself)
No.
It is the small, irrational mind that says like "profanity is a small mind's way of expressing itself."
It is the small, puritanical mind that deems perfectly good words as being "profane" in the first place.
And it is the small, unquestioning mind that believes everything it reads on the Internet is true, particularly when it comes to the likes of the bullshit that API has been spewing for weeks now.
k
There is precedent to remove a person from the ballot:
In 1968, the California Supreme Court voted 6-1 that a presidential candidate who is not eligible to be president should not be placed on the ballot. Cleaver v Jordan, Calif. Supreme Court minutes, Sep. 26, 1968, case no. 7838, not reported.
koyann says: "And it is the small, unquestioning mind that believes everything it reads on the Internet is true..."
EXACTLY!
It is sad how many people believe without question that everything on factcheck.org is true.
The fact is, factcheck.org does not have all their facts straight. They also need to hire a photographer - even a good amateur would do well. Taking photos of a "certification of birth" in the passenger seat of a pickup truck is just as bad as the garbage coming from API. Many photos on eBay are better than that. "Factcheck" should also know that a certification of birth is not an original certificate of birth.
Fortunately, there are a lot of people who know how to do basic research who have not yet been brainwashed by the Obama Cult.
anonymous wrote:
There is precedent to remove a person from the ballot:
In 1968, the California Supreme Court voted 6-1 that a presidential candidate who is not eligible to be president should not be placed on the ballot. Cleaver v Jordan, Calif. Supreme Court minutes, Sep. 26, 1968, case no. 7838, not reported.
I can't find any specifics on the case you refer to here, but if there was such a case, I believe the "Cleaver" in question here was Eldridge Cleaver, who, unlike Berg or any of the others filing lawsuits, was a candidate (Cleaver ran for President on the Peace & Freedom ticket in 1968).
And I don't think there's any question that a candidate has standing.
Also note that the suit was heard in STATE court. NOT federal court. The federal government has no say as to who is allowed on state ballots.
k
i have zero idea what you are talking about
This is losing credibility rapidly with everyone.
I would hope you either take down this blog or start proving that you actually have information and relationships that could benefit America.
I manage/operate a blog media cluster which reaches 2.3mm people a day, you might be able to even guess which one that may be, because there are not many blog groups which can claim that. With that said, several draft posts are "at the ready" based on the outcome of events being discussed here. One of these posts is a thorough dissection of sites like yours. Before my blog team calls out your site as one of the dominant forces of independent misinformation, I ask that you contact me via my outreach email address and discuss this.
In case I need to be concerned about my credibility being called out by a cartoon meatball, in case you really think it's necessary to "call out" this place for actually providing a look at both sides of the procedural aspect of this issue, please email me.
I've tried to send an email to meatwad@livinginmyparentsbasement.com, and it keeps on getting sent back to me.
Jim your site is easy on the eyes, and presents more logical info about Berg than others I can find. Thank you.
I have questions, and Berg isn't providing answers on his site or on interviews on patriotbrigaderadio.com or anyplace I can find. Here is what I found out about the process of filing a Petition for Writ of Certiorari.
Someone with a legal claim files a lawsuit in a trial court, such as a U.S. District Court, which receives evidence, and decides the facts and law. Someone who is dissatisfied with a legal decision of the trial court can appeal. In the federal system, this appeal usually would be to the U.S. Court of Appeals, which is required to consider and rule on all properly presented appeals. The highest federal court in the U.S. is the Supreme Court. Someone who is dissatisfied with the ruling of the Court of Appeals can request the U.S. Supreme Court to review the decision of the Court of Appeals. This request is named a Petition for Writ of Certiorari. The Supreme Court can refuse to take the case. In fact, the Court receives thousands of "Cert Petitions" per year, and denies all but about one hundred. If the Court accepts the case, it grants a Writ of Certiorari.
http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/certiorari.htm
Berg filed Petition for Writ. Where is the document saying the Court granted it and that it set December 1 for Defendants to answer?
SV
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