Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Federal Election Commission Files Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Proper Jurisdiction

Because of its status as a government entity, the Federal Election Commission was given until today to file an answer to the original complaint filed by attorney Philip Berg on August 21, 2008. This afternoon, the FEC met that deadline when it filed a motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, answering Berg's complaint by arguing that he "lacks standing to raise the issue of a candidate's constitutional eligibility."

"Moreover," the motion reads, "even if Berg had standing to raise the constitutional eligibility issue, the Commission should be dismissed as a party to this case because it has no oversight over the Constitution’s Presidential Qualifications Clause."

Benjamin Streeter, the filing attorney from the office of the general counsel for the Federal Election Commission refused to comment. (I felt I should mention it, but please don't read into it too much. Remember that I'm just a regular guy with a political blog, okay? -- Jeff)

Like in the motions to dismiss filed by Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee, the FEC maintains that Berg fails to meet the minimum requirements of standing.

Three elements constitute the “irreducible constitutional minimum” of standing: (1) an injury-in-fact, (2) a causal connection between the injury and the challenged conduct of the defendant (traceability), and (3) a likelihood that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision of the court ... The injury-in-fact required by Article III is an invasion of a legally protected interest that is “concrete and particularized” as well as “actual or imminent,” rather than “conjectural” or "hypothetical." The injury cannot be merely a generalized grievance about the government that affects all citizens or derives from an interest in the proper enforcement of the law.

That final sentence, from FEC v. Akins, truly shows the similarity between the issue of voter standing and the issue of taxpayer standing. Just as you or I could not sue the United States of America claiming to have standing simply because we are taxpayers, the FEC contends--just as was contended by Obama and the DNC, as well as the defendants in the three similar cases against John McCain--that voters cannot raise the issue of constitutional eligibility just because they are voters.

The FEC also argues that, because it has no jurisdiction to enforce the constitutional eligibility of presidential candidates, it should be dismissed from this case. Instead, the Commission only has jurisdiction over campaign finance aspects of federal campaigns.

None of these statutes [the Federal Election Campaign Act, the Presidential Election Campaign Fund Act, or the Presidential Primary Matching Payment Account Act] delegates to the FEC authority to determine the constitutional eligibility of federal candidates, and Berg does not allege otherwise. Although the Commission determines whether certain presidential candidates are eligible for public funding, it has no power to determine who qualifies for ballot access or who is eligible to serve as president. Thus, because the Commission has no authority to take action against Senator Obama as suggested by Berg, the Commission should be dismissed from this case with prejudice.

Upon speaking with Philip Berg, the Philadelphia attorney mentioned that he was not surprised, that he felt he had already established his standing, and that the other argument by the FEC would be taken into consideration.

"We did not make specific allegations against them in our first complaint, however we have done so in our amended complaint," Berg said, noting that his motion for leave to amend is among the dozen or so pending pleadings before the court. "We will carefully look at their motion and what we have here, and make a decision at that point. Even so, the Federal Election Commission should ideally be one of the checks and balances in the system to ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen."

96 comments:

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:26 PM  

What???????

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:27 PM  

Is this Berg's filing or something relating to the election/voter fraud? Please let it NOT be for the Berg case!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:34 PM  

Thanks Jeff for always being right on top of all of this!!!!

Jeff October 21, 2008 3:41 PM  

So no one can challenge The One....

AMAZING.

Who would have standing?... the DNC?... anyone?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:44 PM  

Are they saying that nobody has the right to question his right to run for the office of President? How is anyone able to object then? Sounds like they all would rather avoid answering the simple questions about his birthplace and natural-born status.

Math Nerd,  October 21, 2008 3:45 PM  

Standing, again.

I've made this comment before, and it sounds like an appropriate time to do so again.

I get the standing issue. I really do. However, if the voter in this case doesn't have standing to raise this issue... WHO DOES?

As we've seen in countless case books, in explaining why a given party is wrong, courts love to spell out what could have been done differently to avoid the result the court reached. I've seen nothing similar in this area. If not Berg, then who?

Phil October 21, 2008 3:47 PM  

So, let's see if the judge now makes a ruling.

My view is that Berg's having included the FEC as a Defendant was to try to snag as many entities as possible in this case.

Maybe Philip and/or Jeff know enough to know if this would persuade the judge to dismiss which, if substantial enough, would either drive this into the dustbin or to the Appellate level, as Berg has indicated he might pursue.

Or, the judge could simply move on with the case after having taken the FEC's response into consideration.

How likely is that? Interesting.

-Phil

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:47 PM  

I can understand no standing with the FEC since they are a government entity but not regarding Obama and the DNC. They are private. We are REALLY running out of time. I can't believe our courts don't care that Obama may not be eligible to be president. This is crazy!!

TypewriterStreaming October 21, 2008 3:48 PM  

Then exactly WHO the heck has the RIGHT in this Country to see a candidates Birth Certificate???
Did our Founding Fathers outline who was considered eligible to run for the office just to see if their pen worked? If no one can demand to see the Birth Certificate what the heck protects this Nation???? Nothing? Nada? Zippo???? I am one very angry citizen. We are being sandbagged. There is likely a Coup in progress and there is nothing we can do???? Do not count on election day, the airwaves have been hijacked and more than half this Nation has been kept in the dark about what exactly is going on and who Obama really is. Can you please tell us - who has the right to demand that Birth Certificate?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:48 PM  

If the Judge doesn't rule by Friday at noon, file the Writ before the SCOTUS to make the Judge do his job!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:49 PM  

I need help...
If I as a citizen cannot question the eligability of an elected offical, what purpose does my constitution serve, giving me a democracy by the people for the people...
I gues 230 plus years, will let man destroy anything...

Arkady October 21, 2008 3:51 PM  

Well that is not surprising, but I am wondering - Jeff - what is Berg's possible course of action here?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:51 PM  

So in other words, they can pull the wool over our eyes and we can't question it? If the FEC or DNC or Obama campaign are lying or haven't performed the proper vetting and just let people slide into election we can't say anything about it?

Goldie October 21, 2008 3:51 PM  

Well we're raising the issue of constitutional eligibility because we are LEGAL CITIZENS!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:52 PM  

Jeff,

Thanks for all your hard work on this. I was wondering if you could/would answer a question I have from this.......If voters cannot raise the question of eligibility, who can?

Thanks again. I have enjoyed following the coverage on your site.

DW

Goldie October 21, 2008 3:55 PM  

Is it possible that a CITIZEN could make a citizen's arrest? An illegal alien has no rights. He's made no public proof that he's even a citizen.

How about Immigration? Aren't they held responsible for ensuring that people are here legally?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 3:55 PM  

OK, so who DOES have standing to challenge Obama and the DNC?

Now what?

Greg Goss October 21, 2008 3:57 PM  

Would Palin have standing? It seems to me that seeing as how John McCain will not join the suit then perhaps she can be the fall "guy"?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:02 PM  

Jeff,

So for the not-so-legally inclined, what are your thoughts on the direction that could be taken next?

Thanks.

TonyU,  October 21, 2008 4:03 PM  

That's scary that the FEC has no part in candidate qualifications. So it's all on the party to properly vet a candidate. eek.

Tony

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:05 PM  

Thanks for your updates.

Who DOES check that the presidential candidate
is eligible? This is very Kafkaeske.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:06 PM  

When does Judge Surrick have to finally acknowledge this case?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:07 PM  

API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.
API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day - the 4th of November.????????????

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:08 PM  

Am I reading this correctly?

Does this say that they want to dismiss this because a US citizen doesn’t have the right to know if a candidate meets the constitutional requirements to be a US president?

If Berg doesn’t have the right to know then who does?

Correct me if I am out of line here but… if I get pulled over the police officer doesn’t just take my word for it when I tell them who I am. They require me to provide proof that I am eligible to be driving.

This is an entire county and he’s not required to show anything?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:09 PM  

So, who exactly does have "standing" in a case like this? SCOTUS?

AL Bernard,  October 21, 2008 4:11 PM  

I got it that you can't sue the Gov't, but Berg usn't suing the Gov't, he's suing Obama and the DNC, so what standing does he need? It seemed that Judicial Watch was suing everybody in the late 1990s and early 2000s to get information. What makes Berg's case different from Judicial Watch>

AmericanMan1969 October 21, 2008 4:11 PM  

For the Love of all that is Holy on this Planet!
The FEC, who is incharge of seeing up through to the next POTUS, is saying that they should be dismissed from the case?! WTF!!!
What the hell is going on in this country? I have logged over 500 combat hours defending my fellow Americans in our GWOT and I've done so hoping our country's best interests were being looked after by our elected officials and the American public.
I am truly greatful for the efforts of Phillip Berg and everyone else who is seeking the truth about Sen. Obama.
I urge you all to STAND AND FIGHT! Tell all your friends about what is happening.
FIGHT AMERICA, FIGHT!!!

DEFEND THE FLAG AND OUR COUNTRY!!

Gary October 21, 2008 4:18 PM  

Then the obvious question is... who DOES have standing to question the Constitutional eligibility of a candidate in an election? With this kind of legal logic... I could enter my DOG as a candidate and no one has the standing to question the dog's eligibility in a court of law in this country? That's ludicrous!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:20 PM  

Just curious. Does this mean that Berg's lawsuit goes away?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:22 PM  

Jeff, what is the status on the AIP tape release? is it a hoax???

Lil October 21, 2008 4:25 PM  

This sucks! I'm really trying not to lose hope, but I've come to realize that Obama is going to get away with it and American people are going to be taken advantage of. I'm Mexican and I love your country soooo much,I would hate to see America come to shambles once this guy takes office. All the MSM is biased, maybe except for FoxNews, but even they are ignoring the fact that this lawsuit exists. And now Obama running for Hawaii... I sure hope his mom is really sick for it be a shame for him to used this as an excuse to get there ASAP considering what's been going on out there. I wish his mom the best, but it strikes me as funny that been as sick as she is, Michelle and the girls are not going with him. Anyway, one of the best things that I got following these elections was running into your webpage, you're awesome and I promise I'll continue visiting after the elections. Kuddos to you, Jeff, and thank you for taking your time to keep us informed.

Jonathan October 21, 2008 4:26 PM  

Jeff, this is unbelievable that our system will go as far as they do to not address the issue in question, but waste so much energy and time telling us to what extent the claim is false due to the fact that we weren't wearing a white shirt the day that we filed it. If there was any question as to whether our government has any interest in doing the right thing, we can now throw that out the window for the sake of partisanship.

JD

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:26 PM  

Just out of curiosity, who does have standing to bring forth such a suit?

(Forget the merit of the argument for a minute.)

Suppose that Arnold Schwarzenegger were to seek the Republican nomination in four years. He is obviously not legally able to be President and there is no dispute. If, somehow, he were to be nominated, who is able to prevent someone who is not eligible from potentially being elected and assuming office?

Greg Goss October 21, 2008 4:29 PM  

I believe the last paragraph is quoting Mr. Berg where he states "The Federal Election Commission should ideally be one of the checks and balances in the system to ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen."

I went to the FEC website at www.fec.gov and found only form to register to run for a federal office, the house, senate or presidency. the for is here http://www.fec.gov/pdf/forms/fecfrm2.pdf There NO PLACE to indicate citizenship! WOW As I mentioned in an earlier post. All ya need is big balls to do what BHO has done and appears he just may get away with it.

I for one will take all my vacation time if he get elected and we will show DC what a multi-million man march looks like.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:37 PM  

The FEC has given a clue as to their "get out of jail free" card. Note that BO did not or could not take the Public Funding because then the FEC would have had to "determine" his "elegibility" (or inelegibility) to recieve such. So, FEC is off the hook but the suit should not be dismissed, just ruled by the Federal Courts up to even the Supreme Court if necessary to interpret/follow the Constitution. It's time for BO to "S**T of get of the pot!"

Dee October 21, 2008 4:37 PM  

Berg´s 15 minutes are over. It is time for him to go away!

Danae October 21, 2008 4:40 PM  

Dear Jeff;

What does this mean in laymans terms?

Thank you for all your work!

Danae

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:40 PM  

Everyone should warm up to the idea that this case will be over. And fairly soon. Philip's experience in the Federal court system appears to be slim. Federal judges like interesting issues, but they DON'T like unpreparedness. This case was all about parties and venue. Not getting it right the first time, with time so short, is a fatal flaw. Good thing there's no client here. Just the 300 or so million citizens and the Constitution itself.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:46 PM  

All in all, does this mean the only one who can do anything about this is McCain?

Btw...I've been following your blog over the past week! I really appreciate your insight!

Tom,  October 21, 2008 4:54 PM  

I think on the ammended complaint that Berg should include adding people who are filing the coplaint. I would add people who are members of the Electorial College and opponents such as Ralph Nader etc. McCain will probably refuse to add his name for obvious reasons.

Adding the names might help with standing and then the admissions will solidify into a won case.

You might also consider people like other senators or members of the house. also governors and SOS of some states etc.

Berg needs to find a solid means to blow through the standings issue. Get more people of standing onto the lawsuit.

Obviously new laws need to be written to cover this incredible loophole. Everyone seems to pass the buck on vetting and checking security clearance for these people who have access to secret information. Everyone with access must get a full security clearance and be vetted before taking office.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 4:58 PM  

This case has more ups and downs than the stock market!

So, if Berg doesn't have standing to file, then who does? As a lay person, I have also felt good about the checks and balances in this country, but as you look closer, it is filled with loopholes!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:17 PM  

"Although the Commission determines whether certain presidential candidates are eligible for public funding"

Now we know why Obama refused public funding.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:18 PM  

I have had a question for a while. What would the motivation of Obama and the DNC to not provide his birth certificate? If he has it, he has it. If he doesn't then not only would the DNC disenfranchise every democrat, but the first Black President would have to be impeached. Instead of moving forward with race, he would devastate the Black movement for equality!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:21 PM  

Eerily reminiscent of Hitler...http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/21/biden-mr-mccain-tear-down-those-ads/

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:34 PM  

ACTION ALERT! Call The Judge’s Office And Ask Why He Hasn’t Ruled On Berg v. Obama !!


Call the Judge and ask why he hasn’t ruled on the Berg v. Obama Lawsuit. The more calls they receive the faster there will be movement on this pending case.



Honorable R. Barclay Surrick

United States District Judge

United States Courthouse

601 Market Street, Room 8614

Philadelphia, PA 19106

Deputy clerk: Michael Finney (267) 299-7639

Secretary: Donna Donahue (267) 299-7631



To follow the case online, you will need to first call 1-800-676-6856 where you will get a PACER password/ID that you will use on http://www.ecf.paed.uscourts.gov .


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Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:42 PM  

How was McCain vetted? Wasn't there a case brought concerning his being born in Panama? (I know, he won the case because it was on a Military base)

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:57 PM  

The real question is WHO DOES HAVE STANDING? I mean if a voter or a donor cannot have standing for a claim of fraud because the nominee cannot actually hold the position, then who can? Is the idea that ONLY McCain can have standing because he is the only party that is injured? That's just insane.

Basically they are arguing that even though the Constitution applies to everybody, only one person can sue if the Constituion is violated? This is what we have come to...sad.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 5:58 PM  

Please clarify. I don't understand which came first......the Obama motion to dismiss, or Berg's latest filing ( procedure that Admits all Allegations)???

Where exactly does this case sit now?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 6:01 PM  

Would you explain who would have standing to file such a suit? It boggles me that it would not be a civil right of ANY citizen to be able to demand proof of eligibilty via a court order. This is the same reason used in the Ohio SoS suit that the Supreme Court recently ruled on...the GOP did not have standing to file the suit. Was that because it was a criminal case of her not enforcing a federal law? It seems this "standing" issue really STANDS in the way!!!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 6:10 PM  

Where is this mysterious Judge Surrick I keep hearing about? Has anyone actually seen him lately?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 6:17 PM  

Hi Jeff,

I repeat my message to one of your previous articles and I have a request to you (after a short introduction).

1. Now all defendants (including FEC) asked to dismiss the case.

2. After getting info that among thousands possible attorneys Berg was chosen by API as an attorney for API I got a strange feeling that the whole API's story is just a huge hoax. And the goal of that API's story is to trap Berg into a mix of API's story together with his lawsuit against Obama & DNC. This way after finding out eventually that API's story is a hoax, the Berg's lawsuit would be buried. Maybe I'm too cautious and wrong, but I have such a feeling.


Because of that I think it would be better just to focus on spreading a word on VIDEO "October Surprise" (about Berg's lawsuit). So I repeat again a (little updated) comment that was sent three times to your previous articles.

My request:

if you find this message (or at least an idea of it) useful, please use it in your future article(s) - it will intensify
this message in many times more. Edit it as you wish.

And now I'm repeating that message:
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The clock is ticking. There is a sense to repeat a (little updated)
comment from http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/obama-dnc-file-motion-to-dismiss-bergs.html
made on Oct 20, 2008 at 11:34PM
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Ladies & Gentlemen,

CNN knows about Berg's lawsuit and simply "dismissed" it. All defendants asked the judge to dismiss the case. The Judge
probably will wait until after elections. It leaves only one
possibility to "win" this case - let know American people about its
existence (they don't know because MSM don't inform about it), and
they will decide this case during elections knowing this information
and according their hearts.

VIDEO "October Surprise" has at this moment more than 2,100,000 views. It has to be more than 200,000,000 to be effective. Please email a message (like below) to as many addresses as you can. And let's see.

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Subject: "October Surprise"

Body:
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Not eligible to be President of the US? Why???

OCTOBER SURPRISE

Watch VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
Obama's Citizenship: I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise) 11 min

The same VIDEO can be seen here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_game_changer.html
October 11, 2008
"This could be the game changer"

or here

http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/philip-berg-interview-hits-youtube.html
Saturday, October 11, 2008
"Philip Berg Interview Hits YouTube"

It seems this matter is of interest for everybody.

Please e-mail it to everyone you can think about.

Thanks!
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Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 6:28 PM  

How is a voter's "right to know" not implicit in their right to vote, especially when reasonable doubt about a candidate's eligibility is in evidence?

Why does a voter not have a right to know if a candidate for POTUS is indeed eligible? How does the denial of this serve the public interest, especially when the candidate is the protagonist in seeking the vote? Is there no fundamental duty on the part of the candidate to disclose the proof of their eligibility?

What good is the right to vote if there is no right or mechanism to compel proof said candidate is eligible, especially when the requirements for eligibility are set forth in the Constitution? What justice is served by encrypting the Constitutional test for eligibility inside a procedural lockbox that no American voter may be allowed to open?

How does this serve the intent of the Constitution's framers? How does this service justice or balance the public interest or its right to know the answer to question raised by the Constitution itself?

Jet October 21, 2008 6:43 PM  

Congress should expand the mandate of the FEC to include verifying the eligibility of candidates for public office within the Federal government. Of course, with the Democrats in charge in Congress, it will not be in their best interest right now to see this happen with Obama as their candidate for POTUS.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 7:01 PM  

Jeff - how about putting a PAYPAL button on your site? You spend hours educating us - you should get a consulting fee. This site keeps me up to date with real info AND does not bombard me with advertisements. Think about it! I pay for a newspaper that gives me only MSM crap....you are worth it.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 7:10 PM  

FIRST: DO NOT CALL THE JUDGE'S CHAMBERS!!!! PLEASE!!! AS JEFF HAS STATED, REPEATEDLY, THAT WILL ONLY IRRITATE THE JUDGE'S OFFICE - AND DISTRACT THEM FROM THEIR DUTIES. EVERY SUCH CALL TAKEN IS TIME AWAY FROM THEIR COURT BUSINESS.
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Second, Multiple posters protest, in various terms, WHAT IS A VOTER TO DO??? WHO DOES HAVE STANDING????

WHAT IS A CITIZEN TO DO?
It’s really simple: V-O-T-E

And talk to your family, your friends, and your neighbors about voting. You can try discussing this case. That doesn’t work with many. Ok – so then talk to them about the issues that DO matter to them: Do they care about offshore drilling? Compare the two candidates’ policies for them. Are they pro-life? Compare the two candidates’ policies.

The “feeling” of hopelessness – of reliance on the courts to solve a problem – is troubling, especially coming from some conservatives. Stop waiting for someone else to fix your problem! Get off your patookas and get working the election!

VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO DOES HAVE STANDING????
Well, Jeff has addressed these issues and arguments multiple times. Read back through his posts!! The “upshot” is that under Hollander, only a political opponent has standing to sue. (So, if you believe this is “THE” Issue, you should be contacting McCain and asking him to “Put Country First” by joining the suit.)

Under Robinson, the process is, according to the Constitution, (1) Voters choose; (2) Electors vote; (3) Congress considers any challenges to qualifications to be elected. Then, and only then, would any court involvement be appropriate, if at all.

Aussie October 21, 2008 7:16 PM  

Jeff, Can you envision the Berg case getting to scotus, soon I hope, where scotus considers the following:

1. a presidential election x days away
2. candidate A according to msm has a lead
3. candidate A may not have a bc and if true that fact will come out later

and then decides that instead of impacting an election now by requiring nat born status before the election, it would be better to wait until later an inaugurate a VP elect who was elected on false pretense?

I realize there are a lot of assumptions in there, but can you even envision that?

Me,  October 21, 2008 7:17 PM  

I have a practical question that I hope someone can answer for me. I don't travel much and do not have a passport, so I know little about passports. I know Philip Berg noted in his suit that Senator Obama traveled to Pakistan as a young man on his Indonesian passport and the reason he did so was because he did not have a U.S. passport. Now for my question that I hope someone can answer and call me silly: Is it realistic to think that Obama continues to renew and travel on his Indonesian passport as a U.S. Senator? Wouldn't he have to get a U.S. passport, which would require a long form birth certficate to acquire? Wouldn't the U.S. State Department investigate thoroughly before issuing a U.S. passport?

Ironsides October 21, 2008 7:25 PM  

I have a feeling that if this expose of Obama's citizenship is proveable, that Obama, Biden and all the leftys would really play with it to demand and end to immigration laws, and an end to national borders.

If Obama gets into office, I think that will be a strong possibility, and maybe something Biden was thinking about the other day, in his lecture about a serious test Obama will be put to soon after he's elected.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 7:37 PM  

Colin Powell looking for job or Realy approve Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kU1ruCls08

Donna C October 21, 2008 7:40 PM  

I have emailed Fox News, I pray Obama never gets in office. Think of ALL the millions he has wasted. He IS getting public funds now. he told McCain he wouldn't but he is recieving them NOW. This is a democratic power stunt, they have another smutty incident to hide. Thanks Jeff and Berg, DON'T GIVE UP! WE need you both!!

Jeanine October 21, 2008 7:42 PM  

Jeff,

It seems like people are thinking too far. The FEC simply asked for the case to be dismissed. The court has not ruled on any motions. There is a lot of discussion regarding standing.... I went back to your posting on September 16, when the case against John McCain in California was dismissed for lack of standing. You noted at that time that Mr. Berg mentioned that in the initial hearing the judge asked questions regarding Mr. Berg's standing and did not dismiss the case at that time....which he could have if that was going to be the end of it.

Anyway, when I went back to that posting, it gave me a little hope since this case is still pending with no ruling from the judge.

Thank you for the updates.

Jeanine

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 8:01 PM  

Regarding "me's" Passport question:

Everyone recall the recent break-in into the US Passport office earlier this year...I think it was in March. OBAMAs file was accessed during that "break-in"...Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 8:03 PM  

Hello Jeff,

Thanks a lot for your blog and your updates.

One thing is sure, Berg is onto something really BIG because Hussein Obama and his gang would have long ago provided the documents to prove his eligibility if he had been really eligible!!!
Conclusion: I am now 10,000% sure that Berg's accusations are completely true!!

Now, you might think, Obama is toast and I tell you that this liar and master deceiver is not toast yet! And if Hussein and his gang can delay this case up until after the elections, then if Hussein would be elected then we are in big problems ahead!!

And that is exactly what Obama and his gang want--to reach the following situation: Obama is elected as PotUSA and quite longer after he is elected the case unfolds in favor of Berg but it is kind of too late to change the elections results!!!!

For those who like thriller, they have seen nothing so far.

But the behavior of Hussein Obama and his gang proves, without the shadow of a doubt, that they are completely guilty and that the accusations made by Berg are complete valid (at least for most of them and for the ones at least that define the natural born citizenship requirement).

Keep us posted because we are just at the beginning of one of the biggest scandals in the history of the USA. Scandal because not only Obama knew he was not eligible to become president of the USA but the top Democrats in charge of the vetting process knew too!!!

The behavior of Hussein Obama and his gang is a shame because basically their behavior says to the MILLIONS of voters "f-k you all, we are the Constitution of the USA and Obama is above the Constitution of the USA!!!"
Why? Maybe Obama has the right also to another racist affirmative action but this time for the position of PotUSA!!!

If the Americans knew the way Obama and his gang have behaved in this case, they would seriously question Obama's eligibility in this case.
The truth is mainstream America and most Americans have no clue about this case Berg vs. Obama!!

KEEP FIGHTING, MR. BERG, AND MAKE SURE TO SHOW HOW MUCH OBAMA IS OF A LIAR AND DECEIVER OF THE VILEST KIND!! A closet Muslim, a bogus convert to Christianity only for political gains, a member of a church for more than 20 years that professed hatred against whites, hatred against America and Americans, supporters of the most radical Muslim groups (Hamas, etc.), anti-Semite and anti-Israel, supporters of the most leftist radicals (Ayers, etc.). In one word: Obama is really ugly!!! How can this liar and master deceiver ever be PotUSA?!!!

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 8:09 PM  

first off - I am not a lawyer or claim extensive legal knowledge outside of google -

Please see this opinion by the Supreme court: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=CASE&court=US&vol=524&page=11

here is a key sentence: "Nonetheless, it concluded, AIPAC was not a "political committee" because, as an issue-oriented lobbying organization, its major purpose was not the nomination or election of candidates."

This ruling that is cited for the Case Jeff mentions - was someone with a law suite against the FEC for a lobby organization. This organization did not have any responsibility or direct participation in the nomination or election of a candidate. The DNC DOES!

Just because the FEC gets relief from the suite from this ruling if the judge sees fit - does not mean that the same is due for the DNC or Obama inherently.

Sometimes defendants are included in a case where they are related and have no direct responsibility. Let the courts rule and interpret the pinion. It is only beginning. As of know there is nothing going on but paper shuffling and the courts time allocated.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 8:44 PM  

Jeff,

Can you or someone who works in law give us a time frame to expect a ruling one way or the other in this case? I know many of us are getting ancy because we are not as familiar with the court system and don't see why this isn't a simple clear cut consitutional case, at least as far as discovery.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 8:56 PM  

If I were Obama I wouldn't give this issue any attention either. He's obviously an American citizen born, raised, and educated. He works hard his whole life and then some jackass has the nerve to come along and question whether or not he's even allowed to be in his home?

Give me a break here. This issue will die a painful death. Go hunt another white whale.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 9:23 PM  

This is completely unbelievable. As REAL Americans sit here and read this, i am sure they are feeling exasperated! I know i am. I have been watching my government NOT follow the Constitutin for years, this clinches the deal. Do we give up? or do we follow the declaration of independence?

With Obama rejecting this information he is telling every day american citizens that they don't mean crap in his world. We don't matter. We never mattered.

Sad that the greatest country in the world has come to this.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 9:51 PM  

Ya'll check this out....something's not right with this situation. He gives a deadline of Thurs. for donations?
Why if they just said that they've got this huge amount of $150 mil. in Sept.? My gut says something's wrong...really wrong. We're praying Mr. Berg! Keep fighting!

Thank you Jeff for all you are doing@ --War Eagle & ROLL TIDE!
https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/deadlinevideo1?source=20081021_home

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 9:54 PM  

I can't help but wonder if THIS is the reason for Biden's plea for unity & understanding during the 6 mos following BO being elected - if elected....which, if true, would confirm, the DEMS are well aware of this situation.

chris October 21, 2008 10:08 PM  

Jeff
Off topic, but out of curiosity, why is there an Obama cafepress link for pro-Obama items on your site? Have you been hacked?

msjkulig430 October 21, 2008 10:11 PM  

It appears that the FEC is hiding behind the fact that all they are responsible for is campaign financing. If this is true, why does the FEC have standards of conduct and why are there other statutes against conspiracy, false statements, fraud and deprivation of rights? The judge SHOULD NOT grant the FEC's motion to dismiss if, indeed, another law, rule, code, statute, regulation was, in fact, violated, even if it was NOT mentioned in the original or amended complaint. The judge MUST consider all aspects of the law that may have been violated. A Plaintiff should not be penalized for not citing the appropriate law/rule/code/regulation that violated his/her rights. I believe that there is much case law on this issue. Maybe Mr. Berg or any of the other Plaintiff's suing Obama and others in these lawsuits should consider the following:

TITLE 11--FEDERAL ELECTIONS
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION
PART 7_STANDARDS OF CONDUCT--Table of Contents
Subpart B_Conduct and Responsibilities of Employees or Commissioners
Sec. 7.7 Prohibited conduct--General.
A Commissioner or employee shall avoid any action whether or not
specifically prohibited by this subpart which might result in, or create
the appearance of:
(a) Using public office for unlawful private gain;
(b) Giving favorable or unfavorable treatment to any person or
organization due to any partisan, political, or other consideration;
(c) Impeding Government efficiency or economy;
(d) Losing independence or impartiality;
(e) Making a Government decision outside official channels; or
(f) Affecting adversely the confidence of the public in the
integrity of the Government.


TITLE 11--FEDERAL ELECTIONS
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION
PART 7_STANDARDS OF CONDUCT--Table of Contents
Subpart B_Conduct and Responsibilities of Employees or Commissioners
Sec. 7.16 Miscellaneous statutory provisions.
Each employee shall acquaint himself or herself with each statute
that relates to his or her ethical and other conduct as an employee of
the Commission and of the Government. In particular, the attention of
employees is directed to the following statutory provisions:
(a) Chapter 11 of title 18, United States Code, relating to bribery,
graft, and conflicts of interest, as appropriate to the employees
concerned.
(b) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 1913 against lobbying with
appropriated funds.
(c) The prohibitions of 5 U.S.C. 7311 and 18 U.S.C. 1918 against
disloyalty and striking.
(d) The prohibition of 50 U.S.C. 784 against the employment of a
member of a Communist organization.
(e) The prohibitions against (1) the disclosure of classified
information under 18 U.S.C. 798 and 50 U.S.C. 782 and (2) the disclosure
of confidential business information under 18 U.S.C. 1905.
(f) The provisions of 5 U.S.C. 7352 relating to the habitual use of
intoxicants to excess.
(g) The prohibition of 31 U.S.C. 638a(c) against the misuse of a
Government vehicle.
(h) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 1719 against the misuse of the
franking privilege.
(i) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 1917 against the use of deceit in
an examination or personnel action in connection with Government
employment.
(j) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 1001 against fraud or false
statements in a Government matter.
(k) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 2071 against mutilating or
destroying a public record.
(l) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 508 against counterfeiting and
forging transportion requests.
(m) The prohibitions against
(1) Embezzlement of Government money or property under 18 U.S.C.
641;
(2) Failing to account for public money under 18 U.S.C. 643; and
(3) Embezzlement of the money or property of another person in the
possession of an employee by reason of his or her employment under 18
U.S.C 654.
(n) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 285 against unauthorized use of
documents relating to claims from or by the Government.
(o) The prohibitions against political activities in subchapter III
of chapter 73 of title 5, United States Code, and 18 U.S.C 602, 603,
607, and 608.
(p) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 219 against an employee acting as
the agent of a foreign principal registered under the Foreign Agents
Registration Act.
(q) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 207 against certain activities of
departing and former employees.
(r) The prohibition of 18 U.S.C. 208 against certain acts affecting
a personal financial interest.

TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I--CRIMES
CHAPTER 47--FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS
Sec. 1001. Statements or entries generally
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any
matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or
judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and
willfully--
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or
device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent
statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same
to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement
or entry;
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or
both.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial
proceeding, or that party's counsel, for statements, representations,
writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or
magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the
legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to--
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a
matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel
or employment practices, or support services, or a document required
by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any
office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the
authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of
the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or
Senate.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 749; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII,
Sec. 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 104-292,
Sec. 2, Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3459.)

Click the link for MORE Laws that have been violated.
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/bin/CPS_violates_these_every_case.htm

msjkulig430 October 21, 2008 10:13 PM  

More Informaton On Our Founding Fathers in regards to Citizenship and "Natural Born" Citizens for Presidency!

http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/jyinger/Citizenship/history.htm

10 Ninety-Six October 21, 2008 10:15 PM  

RE: Discovery Conference in compliance with FRCP 26(f)
Jeff,
Can you clarify the argument that Phil’s request for discovery was improper?

FRCP 26(d)(1) states "A party may not seek discovery from any source before the parties have conferred as required by Rule 26(f), except in a proceeding exempted from initial disclosure under Rule 26(a)(1)(B), or when authorized by these rules, by stipulation, or by court order." Since a Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery re FRCP 26 (f) was not held, I fail to see why the defendants would have to answer the discovery request.

A 'Request for Admissions' is part of the discovery process, which cannot proceed until after the Conference of the Parties; Planning for Discovery as FRCP 26(d)(1) asserts. FRCP Rule 26 Subdivision (f) provides for a special meeting between the parties to organize their discovery process; this is a required step. Formal Discovery cannot proceed until this conference has been concluded.

I firmly feel the proper way to proceed would to be to file a petition for writ of mandamus with the Honorable Third Circuit Court or the Honorable SCOTUS if the feeling that the Third Circuit will not expeditious enough.

This is not intended to undermine Philip Berg. This is to assist with guiding this case in the proper direction. As nice as it would be to have Senator Obama and the DNC forced into these decisions, I don't think it's viable.

Jeff, can you confirm or counter this claim? Any comment on this from Berg? any speculation on your behalf?

Regards,
Luke

Below are some references:

A request for admissions (sometimes also called a request to admit) are a set of statements sent from one litigant to an adversary, for the purpose of having the adversary admit or deny the statements or allegations therein. Requests for admissions are part of the discovery process in a civil case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_admissions

A discovery procedure, authorized by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and the court rules of many states, in which one party asks an opposing party to admit that certain facts are true.
http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/E92D773B-2002-4F98-A3FBA39DF0E60C5D/alpha/R/

Definition of discovery:
Definition: A formal procedure established by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and corresponding state procedural rules in which parties to a lawsuit exchange information and documents in an effort to "discover" facts relevant to the lawsuit and identify potential witnesses and evidence.

Discovery devices include depositions, interrogatories, requests for admissions, requests for production of documents and requests for inspection.

http://legalcareers.about.com/od/glossary/g/Discovery.htm

dallasinsat,  October 21, 2008 10:18 PM  

For all of us ready to do our part, I recommend focus, energy and time be spent to put relentless pressure on US Senate Committee on Rules & Administration http://rules.senate.gov/purpose/. They are the ones that have the jurisdiction, authority and responsibility to resolve this issue and they need to get off of their butts and begin hearings. This needs to be number 1 issue for them. Berg filed amendment to his original complaint to add this committee and Diane Feinstein, Chairman. The online Congressional Petition “Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis” started by an obamacrimes user has total of 26K signers. Just think of pressure those 26K people could exert on Diane Feinstein and rest of US Senate Committee on Rules & Administration? To me, that is where the end game is going to eventually be decided and won.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 10:25 PM  

For reference, the recent case against McCain in California:

Link to Robinson v. Secretary of State Debra Bowen et al 2008

"...Senator John McCain, this action alleges, is not a “natural-born citizen” within the
meaning of Article II of the Constitution of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve
as president. Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. His parents were
both United States citizens..."

Tired of being called racist,  October 21, 2008 10:38 PM  

I have a stupid question regarding 'standing'?

If we look at this situation as a business, then, would it be fair to say that Sen. Obama, my putting forth his candidacy is like putting forward a prospectus????
Therefore, would anyone who actually gave money to his campaign would have 'standing'?

I would think anyone who actually gave money to his campaign would have a monetary interest in getting him elected. If he is not qualified to hold the office, then, his acceptance of funds would be fraud.

Just asking.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 10:53 PM  

Just a very naive layman here, trying to understand and asking for some help:

Just how IS the presidential qualification clause in our Constitution enforced?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 10:56 PM  

Actally, Diane Feinstein heads the Dem's committee in charge of verifying their candidate...would she be vulnerable to a civil suit? Or, would donors to the DNC or Obama campaign have standing if they claimed their money was accepted under fraudulant conditions?
I would think sending a boat-load of postcards to the judge's office would get the point across without intruding
on the court's phone lines.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 11:13 PM  

Looks like , in MY OPINION,that the FEC is only asking on behalf of themselvs to have their name(part) of the suit dismissed . It does not have anything to do with the case as a whole. What am I missing that most of you seem to get?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 11:30 PM  

Ok.

What next?

Who does have "oversight over the Constitution’s Presidential Qualifications Clause"? and what have they done, or not done, and why or why not?

Who is looking out for America?

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 11:40 PM  

Greg Stay says:

McCain won his suit based on lack of standing so why did you think this would be any different.

You can pass this along to others, but there's still no proof. Unless you're still waiting for the Michelle tapes. Move on whitey.

This has all been very entertaining and thank you Jeff for taking us all on a long ride.

Anonymous,  October 21, 2008 11:58 PM  

Correct me if I'm wrong. This is just a filing to dismiss. Previsous filngs to dismiss were denied. This one in particutlar is from the FEC. The case is not over and is continuing. The judge has not made a ruling. The DNC and Obama filed ones earlier. You can find a complete list of filings and motions on other websights.

Anonymous,  October 22, 2008 2:27 AM  

If I were Obama I wouldn't give this issue any attention either. He's obviously an American citizen born, raised, and educated. He works hard his whole life and then some jackass has the nerve to come along and question whether or not he's even allowed to be in his home?
--------------------------------
Complete bull.


Obama is NOT a natural-born U.S. citizen. Had he been, he would have proven it by now - instead of fighting these cases and calling on John McCain to prove his U.S. citizenship earlier this year.



You Obamabrats are the BIGGEST hypocrites alive, I swear.




Shut Obama DOWN Mr. Berg!!!

Me,  October 22, 2008 7:38 AM  

Links to the latest filings are listed below. I mentioned the FEC and the two Berg filings yesterday, but the Bradley one I just saw this morning. She is one of the folks who joined the suit later.

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...083/281573/21/

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...083/281573/22/

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...083/281573/23/

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...083/281573/24/

As of today, there are now a total of 24 filings in the Berg v. Obama suit. I know little about law, but that seems like a lot to me, especially over the two-month period since this suit was initialized.

Me,  October 22, 2008 7:56 AM  

Thanks to anonymous at 8:01 10/21. I did some checking on the breakins this morning. For those who might be interested in U.S. passport documentation, here's a link that might be of interest to you:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven...-_b_92673.html

Coincidence that Senator Obama's passport records were accessed several times? Sure. Why not? If you believe that, then I have a bridge in Alaska that you might be interested in purchasing.

Tom,  October 22, 2008 8:11 AM  

I know theres alot of trolling on the board but many of us are viewing this site as intensly as a news channel for constant updated info. Please consider disabling the comment moderation and approval, I would much rather be able to view the info as it comes in.

Anonymous,  October 22, 2008 10:31 AM  

What break in today?

Trent October 22, 2008 3:40 PM  

An answer to the lethargy in the decision process perhaps.

For Immediate Release April 11, 2000
PRESIDENT CLINTON NOMINATES BERLE SCHILLER AND R. BARCLAY SURRICK TO THE FEDERAL BENCH

The President today nominated Berle M. Schiller and R. Barclay
Surrick to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania

Marie,  October 22, 2008 5:47 PM  

Dallasinsat said:

"For all of us ready to do our part, I recommend focus, energy and time be spent to put relentless pressure on US Senate Committee on Rules & Administration"

I sent a letter to Sen Bennett today. He is the ranking (Rep) member of that committee. In the interim, though, I have been rooting around on their website and have come to some conclusions.

http://rules.senate.gov/purpose/

I don't see anything in their processes that requires them to verify the eligibility of a candidate other than the mention in their "Purpose and Jurisdiction" it says they are responsible for matters relating to corruption.

Under the "Presentation of Credentials and Questions of Privilege" rules, they simply provide a form for the governor and SOS to sign verifying that this person was indeed duly elected by the electorate of that state. I don't see anywhere that they require documentation for newly elected Senators and no mention of Presidential elections at all.

Under "Oaths" I see that each senator is required to take the oath swearing allegiance to the constitution (which obviously Sen Obama lied about)but there again is no mention of the presidency.

I hate to say this but I am coming to the conclusion that our country has been laboring under the misconception that someone is minding the store where this is concerned but obviously it has been a case of everyone thinking someone else is responsible for it and, in fact, no one is doing it.

For all we know, Obama and half the senators in the senate were born in the Soviet Union and we would never know as long as they were willing to lie about it.

This is very troubling. If the legal system thinks no voter has "standing" to question this and no one in the Senate or the FBI or anywhere else is doing background checks, we are obviously wide open on this. For all we know, there is a little Manchurian Candidate cell over in Pakistan somewhere breeding future Presidents in preparation for the Third Jihad. And they would probably get away with it--with the help of the American media even!

Anonymous,  October 22, 2008 6:58 PM  

Jeff said...
"So no one can challenge The One...."

The Republican Party, or at the very least, John McCain, should be the one to question the eligibility of Obama; and, probably, they'll do it at the eleventh hour, so that, the Democratic Party wouldn't have time to replace Obama, should he be disqualified.
However, the DNC may have already prepared for this eventuality; and that is, DNC is ready for Biden to be THE ONE.

Anonymous,  October 22, 2008 8:16 PM  

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/south-florida-sun-sentinel/TE183SK2KJH8R5DP3/p5 IF FOUND THIS BLOG IN FLORDIA LOOK UNDER THE POST PROUD TO BE A AMERICAN LEXINTON KY. THE POST SAID THEY KNEW SOMONE WHO WORKED FOR THE OBAMA TEAM AND WHEN THE MAIL CAME IN WITH DONATIONS THEY WERE TOLD TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE ENVELOPES COMING FROM THE MIDDLE EAST AND PUT THEM IN NEW ENVELOPES AND PUT US ADDRESS ON IT THIS PROVES THE MIDDLE EAST HAS SENT OBAMA A LOT OF HIS MILLIONS , OBAMA IS A PLANT FOR THE MIDDLE EAST

Anonymous,  October 22, 2008 11:01 PM  

Funny you mention Pakistan. According to Obama's own books, the people who befriended him most during college years where Pakistani. Now that being said. How is it he wants to fire upon a secular government? Does he prefer the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan?

Ann October 24, 2008 3:17 PM  

If, as suggested, one can gain standing to challenge Obama's citizenship and consequent right to run for POTUS by contributing to his campaign, all who feel he should be required to produce proof of citizenship should contribute $1.00. It may be that only Obama contributors are eligible to file suit. How likely is that to happen if only his supporters have contributed to his campaign?

Gary Baumgarten October 24, 2008 11:11 PM  

Philip Berg will be my guest on News Talk Online on Paltalk.com Tuesday October 28 at 5 PM New York time.

Please go to www.garybaumgarten.com and click on the Join The Show link to talk to him.

Thanks.

Tired of being called racist,  October 25, 2008 12:54 AM  

Just a curious question.

Let's just for a moment say that Mr. Berg is right. I, myself, believe that he is and the strongest evidence that points to this conclusion is that Sen. Obama went to Pakistan in 1981, when he was an adult, to a country that did not admit any US citizens at that time.

Anyway, what happens then? Besides the fact that Sen. Obama is striken from the ballot? What happens to all of the early voting ballots and absentee ballots already submitted in mail?

1. Do these ballots become invalid?
2. Do anyone on the ballot besides Sen. Obama get counted?
3. Or does the whole ballot become invalid?
4. Do those whose ballots are invalidated get a chance to re-cast a ballot?
5. How would that work?

As we get closer and closer to Nov. 4, the logistics of these procedures are daunting, to say the least.

Just curious.

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