Friday, September 5, 2008

Berg v. Obama Update -- Friday, September 5

Obama, DNC Served Yesterday Afternoon

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was served with papers yesterday connected with the lawsuit filed more than two weeks ago in federal court in Philadelphia questioning his constitutional eligibility for the American presidency. Service was made at his Washington, D.C. Senate office at approximately 1:00 p.m.

From a press release provided by filing attorney Philip Berg and available on his Web site:

Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.

The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.

A telephone call to Obama's Senate office in Washington, D.C. yielded no official comment, as his staffer maintained that she was "not familiar with any legal action" and, even though I mentioned that service was made in D.C. to that office, it was "probably a campaign-related issue."

The subsequent call to the senator's campaign headquarters, however, yielded the same result but in a more entertaining fashion.

"That's very interesting," said a campaign official who declined to provide a name and admitted that this was the first he had heard of Berg's lawsuit. He asked whether anything about the civil action had appeared in the newspapers, and when told that the story had appeared in the Washington Times, he laughed.

"Has the story appeared in the New York Times? How about the Washington Post? Or the Los Angeles Times? The Chicago Tribune?" he asked. "Those are all more trustworthy papers than the Washington Times. When the story appears there, then we might have something to say about it."

"If Sen. Obama were ineligible to run for president," he said, "I think we would have heard about it by now."

Berg, over the phone, mentioned that he has received phone calls and advice from dozens of lawyers across the country, and was currently working on preparing a motion for expedited discovery to be filed before the next conference with Judge Surrick. While he was unable to provide a copy of the affidavit of service--as soon as I get a copy, it will be posted here--he was more than happy to offer his perspective on the predictable response I received from Obama's senate office and campaign headquarters.

"They know about it," he said, noting that the story has catapulted across the Internet and radiowaves, citing 7.9 million hits on his Web site and mentioning that he is booked for a pair of radio interviews this evening, and will be sitting with a newspaper photographer for another story to appear in the [Norristown, PA] Times-Herald. "Too many times, a lawsuit can be filed and nobody knows about it. This time, the political people must know for sure."

"The silence is proving me right," he said, wondering why no doctor or nurse has come forward to claim the inevitable publicity which would accompany an admission that they were in attendance for the Illinois senator's birth. "I think it's an insult to the American public and even more so to his campaign supporters who have worked so hard and donated so much money. All they're doing is prolonging the agony. If I'm right and they stay quiet, they could sit on it for 60 days, get elected, and the only way out would be impeachment by this do-nothing Congress."

"What does that do for America?" He asked. "This deserves a comment one way or another."

72 comments:

John Galt September 5, 2008 1:01 PM  

I believe that there is a confirmation of service now posted on Obamacrimes.com including a link to the legal documents.

Larry Walker,  September 5, 2008 1:05 PM  

Thanks for the updates. It's refreshing to know that American journalism lives on despite the mainstream media. I believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but a motion to dismiss should not be granted for such grave charges.

citizenwells September 5, 2008 1:23 PM  

Here is the email I received from Philip J Berg:

Hi Mr. Wells,

I just received confirmation that the DNC and Senator Obama were in fact served
today, 09/04/2008. The DNC was served at noon and Senator Obama was served at
1:00 p.m. All Defendants have now been served so the case can proceed.

Thank you for your email. Please keep up the great job and continue spreading
the word. Together we can make a difference.

Phil
Philip J. Berg, Esquire

callmike2 September 5, 2008 4:24 PM  

Good job, Jeff! We shall watch the Cable TV outlets for any sign of traction. What kind of precedent would this set for the election, if it pans out and the judge rules in favor of the plaintiff?

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 4:41 PM  

I am also trying to spread the word. This really needs to be public. Thanks so much for this website.

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 4:47 PM  

This is great news! Mr. Berg can
you get an interview with the
LA Times, WaPo, or New York Times?
I wish that you could.
We wish you well!

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 5:09 PM  

Berg is a jackass...Obama is a natural born citizen. This suit will be tossed,and berg will be exposed for the fraud he is. I hope he enjoys his spot on McCain's staff-traitor.

Michael Di Corcia September 5, 2008 6:05 PM  

Typical, Obama supporter, and dem... throwing insults hiding your identity.
Mr. Berg is asking for information about someone who could become our president (help us God should that happen)and that is hiding so much about his past.

keep digging everyone let's find out who this guy really is and what he actually stands for.

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 6:06 PM  

Whether Berg is a jackass or not is of little consequence. The fact is - Berg's suit wasn't tossed at all. (insert cheesy grin here)

I also appreciate Jeff Schriber's effort at keeping us informed. Good job.

As for whether this story gains any traction with the msm - given it's late on Friday - don't expect much until Monday when the next news cycle begins. I suspect the delay in confirmation by the DNC was intentional to buy time for further preparation of legal delay tactics.

mckenzie,  September 5, 2008 7:24 PM  

If Obama can run for president as a natural born citizen then so can my dog. I have papers stating she was born (and raised) in GA!

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 7:26 PM  

Isn't Philip Berg the guy who said we didn't have to pay income taxes?

Or is he the "9/11 is an inside job" guy?

Tinfoil asshats, all of you.

Grow a pair and vote for Obama or not. Just stop pretending to be X-Files. That show was canceled years ago. Get over it.

Larry Walker,  September 5, 2008 8:21 PM  

To anonymous at 5:09 who is afraid to say your name: Mr. Berg is correct and is putting his Country first. He is also correct in bringing this to light now before an October surprise which will not give the Dems time to nominate a qualified candidate. This needs to be expedited through the system for that matter alone. Many said the same about the National Enquirer, and then came the Edwards story. Something about his associations, his Indonesian passport, and the obviously fake birth certificate should lead any American to the same curiosity. You on the otherhand are making a claim that you can't back up with an iota of evidence.

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 9:00 PM  

My name is Amy Bakari, I am a blogger-internet Radio producer of PAJAMA POLITICS - I have a blog to www.thepajamapolitics.blogspot.com

I would love to have Mr. Schreiber and Mr. Berg on my show - let's talk about this very interesting topic.

Since as you said mainstream media haven't picked it up, although I have emailed your links and press releases to my sources in MSNBC and Politico.

Feel free to contact me - I believe in freedom of speech, all opinions are respected and needs to be heard.

Amy Bakari
amy@inmypajamas.net

Anonymous,  September 5, 2008 9:03 PM  

Mayhap Berg is a jackass, perhaps not. I would think that in the spirit of Americanism, and all that it professes to be, that we should wait until evidence is produced, or Mr. Berg is pitched out on his buttocks.

I dunno... Just seems fair to see both sides and get the air cleared.

Tony - Omaha,  September 5, 2008 9:44 PM  

constructive comment "anonymous"
Thanks for keeping us up to date Jeff.
If this is true or not, they really should create a law that mandates background checks & citizenship proof for the POTUS. Think about it, if somebody can't get a Top Security clearance for a Govt. job should they really be allowed to run the country? I say no

Jet September 5, 2008 10:01 PM  

Thanks for the update, Jeff. Did Berg indicate when he will be filing the motion for expedited discovery and when his next conference with the judge will be?

hydr0l1c5 September 5, 2008 10:18 PM  

Why is this not all over Fox and CNN? If Sarah Palin were not born American we would have all heard about last week.

Joe September 5, 2008 10:22 PM  

Two things are quite apparent concerning this action: 1) If tested positive, Obama will be looking for work outside of Washington and 2) There will be hell to pay on the American political scene; the division this will cause will probably create a Black/White issue that may throw the prospects of WW-III on the back burner. --jws

xbjllb,  September 5, 2008 10:45 PM  

Anon 5:09, the only jackass here is you, representing PREFECTLY the clueless mass of clueless Obama supporters and their clueless fraud candidate.

Michael B. Anthony,  September 5, 2008 11:13 PM  

Anonymous (the one that classifies Mr. Berg as a "jackass",)...you seem so sure that Obama is a natural-born citizen. My question to you is---how do you KNOW? Were you present at the blessed event? If so, furnish Mr. Berg with your affidavit stating the particulars. If NOT...you're an idiot, and you should shut the hell up.

carrieon September 5, 2008 11:32 PM  

The only verification of one's true birth location is on the original certificate locked up in the State's archives. Everything else is a copy, even if it's certified. Obama, or the State of Hawaii has refused to disclose the original birth certificate from the Hawaian archives...if there is one in there???

CelticSweetie September 5, 2008 11:42 PM  

I'm glad they both got served. Its about time. I'm no longer a democrat and I will only vote for the candidate I think will make a difference in the lives of Americans. I'm sick of hearing how great Obama is gonna be and how aweful McCain will be. Personally this country would be a better place without cheaters and liars in government. I read the legal documents. Very interesting I might add and a definite must read for all those who think Obama is some sort of Saint. He is a socialist who is following in his daddy's footsteps. Like they've been saying about the Ex-mayor of Detroit the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Once a crook always a crook. Crooks breed crooks that's how I see it. Mr. Berg I commend you on trying to put a stop to the Anointed One and the DNC. The party will never unite and they can be sure that Hillary supporters will be voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin in November.

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 12:07 AM  

Hey anon, YOU are the jackass. Yes the suit probably will be tossed, and not because the Obamanation is eligible to be president, because HE ISN'T, but because we have a corrupt ruling elite which we should rise up and OVERTHROW!

Civil war before OBAMA! Revolution before Obama! He will NEVER be my president!

You have to be MORE then just a citizen. Both your parents have to be U.S. citizens, and you can NEVER have been a citizen of another country. The Obama fails this test on both parts.

He IS NOT ABLE to Constitutionally be president. Sorry douche bags, get used to it, you messiah can't even legally be a U.S. senator.

NoCrud September 6, 2008 12:29 AM  

"anonymous" said: Berg is a jackass..."

Could Berg one of so very few honest and patriotic Democrats?

At least he is not blindly going down with Obama's ship.

Add up the numbers: How many ways can you defend the charges in the lawsuit? Have you even read it? Apparently not.

Temple Stark September 6, 2008 12:36 AM  

anon, How can anyone be a traitor in this instance????????????

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 2:09 AM  

So you are expecting the physician who delivered Obama 47 YEARS AGO to come forward? The Doctor who delivered me 46 years ago was dead before I was in my teens.

I hope the court awards Obama attorney's fees after he tosses Berg's ridiculous suit out. Will Berg file suit against McCain as well, born in the Canal Zone?

I thought not.

Jeanie September 6, 2008 2:26 AM  

Anonymous, Berg is not what you have called him. Apparently you do not know the facts well enough to know that there is verifiable proof of Obama's fraud attempt to obtain the presidency. To you I say, PROVE what you say. You cannot do it. Prove it or shut up and sit down.

Barry M Jones Sr.,  September 6, 2008 4:14 AM  

An answered Prayer ! Expose this fraud all the way back to his community organizer office in Chicago ! Let me know what I can do to help ? I will email you ! Blessings , Barry

Ian Thorpe September 6, 2008 9:28 AM  

I've linked to this series of posts from my UK blog and some big news blogs. The story has generated a lot of interest among those of us who were immediately suspicious of "Son Of Goat Boy's" ludicrous fairytale about his father.

Obama should really not have taled about Africa to appeal to the black vote. Many of us in Britain take a detached interest in US politics abd when he first spoke of his name "meaning blessed in African" or his fathers African nationality we were suspicious.

There has never been an African languages, there are hundreds of tribal languages. A Kenyan of Obama Snr's generation would not refer to himself as African but Kenyan. Nationalist feelings in the years before independence were very strong.

So really Barry Soetoro has only himself to blame. If he had just said, "I never knew my father," its unlikely anyone would have questioned his birth.

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 11:23 AM  

Berg might be a jackass, but he still has a right to an answer to this question.
Someone needs to interview his grandmother, if she is still alive, and his aunt and uncle.

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 11:34 AM  

Maybe Mr. Berg is a jackass, but he still has the right to question this.
Just think of what happens if this is true.

jeanniejo September 6, 2008 1:07 PM  

Thanks for the update ---

Howie Isaacks September 6, 2008 4:24 PM  

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The Constitution is very explicit on the qualifications for the presidency. If Obama doesn't meet the qualifications, he shouldn't be president. We certainly need to get a decision on this before election day. I would hate to see this become bogged down by people who simply want to sweep it under the rug and move on. If Obama isn't qualified and he's allowed to stay in office should be be elected, it would damage our constitution and would lead to allowing even more violations until the Constitution is meaningless.

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 4:27 PM  

Hard to believe this, and would be a huge discredit to the vetting system if it is accurate. I support you all the way though Mr. Berg, as if you win you would save this country a huge embarrasment and a major "infiltration" of our government. I wouldn't vote for him anyway, as he has a weird little smirk and a condesending way about him that makes me believe absolutely nothing he says anyway, so this wouldn't surprise me1

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 6:54 PM  

This is ridiculous...McCain is in fact born in another country...Panama. Yet no one throws up any questions about him...why's that? Cause he looks like you?

Anonymous,  September 6, 2008 9:46 PM  

Hey, no namecalling please... don't you want to find out the truth for democracy's sake? If he is indeed a legitimate qualified candidate, then we can all relax knowing that no games were played. I'd say, go for the truth!

Anonymous,  September 7, 2008 2:38 AM  

Can you explain how and why the citizenship issue was never raised before when Obama ran for state and national offices? If Obama is not a citizen, how did he obtain his U.S. passport? My husband and I had to provide birth certificates in order to get our passports. How did he obtain a Soc. Sec. number? How did he manage to evade U.S. Customs and Immigration all those years he was living and going to school in the U.S? Wouldn't he have had to get a green card or Visa or something? Shouldn't you include the U.S. Government in your lawsuit for negligence for providing Obama with proof of citizenship, a Passport? Incidentally, would you consider suing the members of the Bush administration who have dual citizenship with Israel? Thanks for your reply.

columbiauniversity,  September 7, 2008 11:37 AM  

I thought Obama was born in Hawaii, just a little after Hawaii became our 50th State. Born in the USA?

carrieon September 7, 2008 12:05 PM  

Obama got his U.S. passport the same way everyone gets a passport in the U.S. All you need to show is a certified copy of your birth certificate. Do you really think that government people care if the certificate isn't valid? Government workers only get paid to follow follow written guidelines and procedures. Hopefully, applying to become President has more stringent proof of Naturalization in America.

Vicki,  September 7, 2008 2:01 PM  

To Anonymous "Amy"
You must be an illiterate. Truly. McCain was born on a US Military base. There is never any question about citizenship when born at a military installation! I grew up in the military. Your show/blog must just be a hoot. And if you emailed your contacts at major news networks, I am sure when they saw it was from you...they hit "delete."

Larry Walker,  September 7, 2008 2:19 PM  

Arnold Schwarzenegger is the governor of California but can never be President. Ever heard this before? The President cannot have been a citizen of another country. John McCain was vetted and he passed the test. Being born to US Citizens who were in the military, on a Military base in Panama, did not make him a Panamanian citizen. Obama had an Indonesian passport that he used to get into Pakistan in 1981, so how did he get that without being able to prove Indonesian citizenship?

Rath,  September 7, 2008 4:54 PM  

First to those that have brought up McCain right as a US citizen... Do your research on the canal zone at the time of his birth and the place of his birth and you will find that there never will be any question as to his rights as a US citizen. No I'm not going to just tell you what you will find, this is a lesson in thinking for yourself and you will have to exersize your brain alittle.
As for Mr Obama... All he has to do is request that his orginal certificate of birth be produced... Why hasn't he done this already?.. Could it be that what is stated is the truth and there is no legal document showing his birth in the US??
People you need to wake up from the trance you have fallen into and start exersizing the right to the truth that so many have given their lives for.
Why do you blindly follow the flock?? And if this is proven to be true will you admit that you were wrong or will you go on claiming that all that oppose Obama are racist as has been the case so far?
Only questions for you to find the answers to as I have.
I would never vote for Mr Obama because he has hidden too many facts about his past, and his record of voting shows me that he has no idea as to what he is doing... A President cannot vote "present" on any issue as Obama has 130 times. Of the 400 chances he has had to cast his vote more than 230 times he has not voted.. I need a President that is on the job all the time, not part-time.

lazy drone September 7, 2008 6:39 PM  

This lawsuit is nothing butt noise from a racist GOPer

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

Fred,  September 7, 2008 9:15 PM  

It is my understanding that the RNC has a copy of Obama's real birth certificate and the name on the certificate is Barry Soetero.

Anonymous,  September 7, 2008 11:34 PM  

MO WAY NO OBAMA!!

PUMA FOR COUNTRY FIRST!!

Anonymous,  September 7, 2008 11:44 PM  

McCain owns BarrySoetoro.com -- he knows something about Barry and his background.

Illinois Independent,  September 8, 2008 4:53 AM  

After reading the 39 Obama lies from black LA talk Radio host Terry Anderson and the connections to politics as usual I can no longer vote for Sen. Obama. Wish we had better choices. God help the USA!

Izzy Bee September 8, 2008 5:22 AM  

Birth in Hawaii to a US citizen mom qualifies BOH as a natural born citizen. If this legal challenge route is to be pursued, it is worth noting that John Sidney McCain was not certified as an American citizen until he was 1 years old, as he was born in the Panama Canal ZOne, and there had to be a court ruling to determine this. Both candidates have "exotic" backgrounds.
Just a silly distraction from the real issues.

Anonymous,  September 8, 2008 7:55 AM  

Rath stated:
"I would never vote for Mr Obama because he has hidden too many facts about his past, and his record of voting shows me that he has no idea as to what he is doing... A President cannot vote "present" on any issue as Obama has 130 times. Of the 400 chances he has had to cast his vote more than 230 times he has not voted.. I need a President that is on the job all the time, not part-time."

Very well put. As a matter of fact, here is confirmation or background discussion explaining BHO's predisposition to non-commitment throughout his collegiate career . . .
JODI KANTOR
NYT January 28, 2007

Some highlights:
*He developed a leadership style based more on furthering consensus than on imposing his own ideas. Surrounded by students who enjoyed the sound of their own voices, Mr. Obama cast himself as an eager listener, sometimes giving warring classmates the impression that he agreed with all of them at once.

*Friends say he did not want anyone to assume they knew his mind — and because of that, even those close to him did not always know exactly where he stood. It is a tendency that could prove perilous on the campaign trail, as voters, rivals and the news media try to fix the positions of a senator with only two years in office.

*“He then and now is very hard to pin down,” said Kenneth Mack, a classmate and now a professor at the law school, referring to the senator’s on-the-one-hand, on-the-other-hand style.

*Even trickier, Mr. Obama was the most prominent minority student on a campus shaken by racial politics. A group agitating for greater faculty diversity occupied the dean’s office and sued the school for discrimination; Derrick Bell, a black law professor, resigned over the issue.

*People had a way of hearing what they wanted in Mr. Obama’s words. Earlier, after a long, tortured discussion about whether it was better to be called “black” or “African-American,” Mr. Obama dismissed the question, saying semantics did not matter as much as real-life issues, recalled Cassandra Butts, still a close friend. According to Mr. Ogletree, students on each side of the debate thought he was endorsing their side. “Everyone was nodding, Oh, he agrees with me,” he said.

*His speeches, delivered in the oratorical manner of a Baptist minister, were more memorable for style than substance, Mr. Mack said.

*During the constant arguments about race and merit, everyone could point to Mr. Obama and find justification for their views. He had acknowledged benefiting from affirmative action in the past, so those who supported it saw him as the happy product of their beliefs.

*In dozens of interviews, his friends said they could not remember his specific views from that era, beyond a general emphasis on diversity and social and economic justice.

compw1se September 8, 2008 7:45 PM  

What do you expect from someone with 3 arab names?

Anonymous,  September 8, 2008 10:26 PM  

Has anyone covering the McCain campaign asked them what they think about this lawsuit??

Anonymous,  September 8, 2008 11:44 PM  

I'll post anonymous simply b/c I don't want spam from this.

Amendment 14, Section 1:

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Obama = Born in Hawaii after it became a state, case closed. Oh wait, someone will say "where's the proof? where's his BC?" Um, I've seen several sites show it to prove it to you. But wait "Thats not good enough, government employees aren't careful in their jobs, blah blah blah" ...this is a farce and obviously a hate site.

NC Republican,  September 9, 2008 2:03 AM  

Quote:
"Hey anon, YOU are the jackass. Yes the suit probably will be tossed, and not because the Obamanation is eligible to be president, because HE ISN'T, but because we have a corrupt ruling elite which we should rise up and OVERTHROW!

Civil war before OBAMA! Revolution before Obama! He will NEVER be my president!

You have to be MORE then just a citizen. Both your parents have to be U.S. citizens, and you can NEVER have been a citizen of another country. The Obama fails this test on both parts.

He IS NOT ABLE to Constitutionally be president. Sorry douche bags, get used to it, you messiah can't even legally be a U.S. senator."

You obviously have no clue about US law. Only one parent must be a US citizen for the child to be a citizen and that child does not have to be born in the US. Do your research before spouting off stupidity. If this were not the case, then thousands of US Military personnel overseas would be fighting to have the children born on US military bases in foreign countries nationalized.

Obama's mother is a US citizen, that is a known fact, since her parents are US citizens. Hence, her son is a US citizen even if he was born in the buttcrack of Saudi Arabia. Only a true dumbfuck with no clue as to how US laws and statutes actually work would even prescribe to this shitcan conspiracy theory.

No wonder the Obama campaign won't respond. You're hurting McCain-Palin ticket more than helping you fucktards.

brian f. September 9, 2008 12:12 PM  

These pointless attacks do nothing for the general discourse. Look at the facts and issues.


And, by the way, just for the record, you know this same issue came up with John McCain, since he was (for a fact) born in Panama? No one's challenging his right to be President, are they?

Anonymous,  September 9, 2008 12:21 PM  

Compw1se, I expect him to ignore racists such as yourself.

Camille September 9, 2008 7:40 PM  

EVERYBODY!!! Please take the time to read the court documents before spewing your profanity from one end of the blog to the other!
From what I read, he was born in Kenya, flown to Hawaii and registered there four days after birth. His mother as a US citizen was too young to confer her own citizenship upon him.
Time for the government to get truly involved and settle this thing once and for all!
If the mainstream media does not get involved quickly, and Obama gets past this with no effort, then I must assume he either owns mainstream media or his campaign people have them under their thumbs as the have Hillary Clinton! (money is power???)

Anonymous,  September 9, 2008 9:52 PM  

The issue is more than Birth certificate. I agree he may HAVE BEEN natural born but One way to LOSE citizenship is to voluntarily give it up. He may have unwittingly qualified for this loss when he moved to Indonesia. He has Indonesian citizenship. He traveled in his twenties on an Indonesian passport.
Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship so in order to get a passport from Indonesia you can't be a citizen of another country and it is likely that he would be required to forgoe US citizenship.
You can get US citizenship BACK..if you apply..(re-)naturalization procedure,-- which has to happen within 5 yrs ).but he didn't do that.( travelled in 20's as Indonesian.) So he can be senator.. he has ONE condition that quaifies for senator..but not the TWO you need for POTUS.

Anonymous,  September 9, 2008 9:58 PM  

Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. So he technically had to lose his US citizenship at some time. He still has a way to regain...1. To come back ...the US requires a renunciation of prior citizenship as part of the (re-)naturalization procedure, which has to happen within 5 yrs ) and remember---He traveled in his twenties on an Indonesian passport.So he didn't do that. Even with a BC , there is enough iffyness here that it deserves a better look.

Anonymous,  September 9, 2008 10:01 PM  

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. So there another knife edge here...( but kids don't need passports..so..at some point Obama had to be a Ind. citizen legally to get a legal Ind.passport......and hence can't be dual. And hence had to renounce USA. There's room for doubt here guys.

Anonymous,  September 9, 2008 10:16 PM  

Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. So he technically had to lose his US citizenship. to get the Ind.passport he used during his 20's. hence had to renounce USA voluntarily through some declaration...That might haunt him.
The BC may not be as important as this.
1.State Department, could reverse the 1990 policy under which Americans are presumed to have intended to keep their US citizenship in the absence of definitive evidence to the contrary.
( Since Indonesia denies DUAL. You would have renounced US to get Indonesia passport.)This could be evidence to the contrary.
hence he may be in trouble..NOT for senate...but for extra requirement for POTUS

Anonymous,  September 10, 2008 4:39 PM  

yes anonymous but i am not the guy from 5:09. I am anonymnous because I don't have a google blogger ID , and this site allows me to post when i hit the anonymnous button.. don't dismiss anonymous posters as being either ALL the same person...or evil..lol

Larry Walker,  September 11, 2008 4:27 AM  

There was an interview with a friend of his mother's in Washington State who was discussing Stanley Ann having visiting her with little Barry a couple of weeks after his birth on her way back to Hawaii. Why was she flying all over the place with a two week old baby? Where was she coming from? That lady is still living and her interviews are posted on the Web.

There are also reports of a Barack Hussein Obama being born in Canada in August 1961. How many Barack Obama's were born in August of 1961? For you doubters, maybe if he didn't have a father who was a Citizen of a British Colony at the time, and under British Law, this wouldn't be an issue.

How many 1/2 white, 1/2 black babies were born in 1961? You would think someone would remember. At least show us a record of birth from the hospital in which he was born. Even with that however, I'm afraid he fails the test.

Anonymous,  September 12, 2008 8:28 PM  

it has been proven that the canadian obama thing is a hoax...they have the origination of it.and it is just blogger drivel.
The real issue is not whether born in Hawaii. even if he was ( doubt exists)
The issue is ...did he still retain USA citizenship upon going to Indonesia.?( and thereby having to cancel USA cit'ship to qualify,since Indonesia doesn't allow dual cit'ship.) upon his return to america , he would qualify for senate..but not POTUS. The judge would have to declare that he didn't intend to give up his USA cit'ship...'cause he was young..

Anonymous,  September 26, 2008 1:59 AM  

It amazes me how belittling Americans can be. This is hilarious. These comments are nothing less than "covert racism". I said it! Why don't you just admit it and be free!

Anonymous,  September 26, 2008 6:45 PM  

I dont see the humor. I go to county building to do business and they send me home to get my birth certificate. I have to go to safe deposit box to get and drive back to county office...blah blah blah. YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENCY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING...WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?? You call it Belittling, I call it seedy that he and the DNC chose to send attorney to file a motion rather than just offer up the paper like you and I would have to do. Belittling my ass, and the racism sir, is in your mind and heart, not mine. McCain nor Obama should get no better deal or exceptions that you and I should, as this is my country too! Racism, shame on you!

Anonymous,  September 27, 2008 9:36 PM  

different anon here.
just this week bama group has admitted ( after denying for ages) that he had Kenyan citizenship also.
google Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II
By Judah Benjamin, if ya don't believe me.
I DONT care if he has valid USA COLB... if the other shoe to drop is Indonesian citizenship...it's starting to look bad for Barack.
once again..it isn't even about DUAL-- Indon. cit;ship would negate his USA citship..HE CAN and prolly DID reinstate USA, but that NEGATES his ability for POTUS. ( not for senate however.)

Steve October 8, 2008 12:36 PM  

I'm no Obama supporter, that's for certain. NJ DMV made me jump through hoops to prove that I am who I say I am, so that they would give me a digital license.

It certainly is reassuring to know that the privilege of driving a car is more closely guarded than the privilege of becoming Commander in Chief of the United States.

It would be SO very easy to get the suit dismissed if it were unfounded. Send a lawyer and a staffer to Philly with docs in hand.. boom... DISMISSED. But that hasn't happened. Just makes you want to ask "Why not?"

Why not indeed...

Steve October 8, 2008 12:38 PM  

in other news... the Canadian COLB wasn't a hoax... it was joke. The signature on the document reads "Dudley Dooright"!!!

Anonymous,  October 9, 2008 10:12 PM  

What's that in the background I hear, some printing presses creating the BC :)

Tellthetruth October 23, 2008 8:17 PM  

This is a ridiculous accusation.I was an intern at the Honolulu at the time Obama was born, and was present in the delivery room.

Anonymous,  October 24, 2008 9:54 AM  

tell the truth... two issues.
1-ask youraelf why anyone would pay 1000's of dolllars to lawyers rather than just produce the documents.
2- even if he WAS born in Hawai..he may have HAD do give it up by being Indonesian citizen m( and Kenyan..which he NOW admits on his website).. since DUAL citizenship NOT allowed in Indonesia.
he re-claimed US cit. in 80's.. but that doesn't allow him to be POTUS... he can be a senator..but not POTUS.
just show the damn BC.. he was even in Hawaii this week..so get the damn BC.

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